That is a different animal than one with a heat pump pre-heater. The instant 
demand heaters suffer longevity problems although they are getting better. they 
have been common in Europe, well Britain anyway for a very long time in the 
form of what are lovingly referred to as geysers or Ascots. Interestingly, 
these have long  been being replaced by tank style heaters. I wonder if that 
trend has been reversing in more recent years.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Andrus 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters


    
  Hi,

  I have a friend who installed an instent hot water heater for his boss at
  work. He said that it was $1200. Before installing it he researched it for
  his boss and found that it would pay for itself in 4 to 5 years. It's a
  costly upfront cost, but if you are staying in your place for more than 5
  years it's a good idea. It also prevents a dad's frustration with a cold
  shower because your teenage daughter took all the hot water with one shower.

  Dave A. 

  Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of
  Jesus

  Rev. Dave Andrus, Director
  Lutheran Blind Mission
  888 215 2455
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
  On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:50 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  I don't know much about them, the little bit of research I have done has
  been on geothermal heat pumps. The heat recoverable is relatively low, about
  110F so these are really pre-heaters. You can certainly save some money but
  the cost is very high and unless you are using the heat pump equipment for
  other things like heating or cooling the home so that the capital cost is
  expressed over more intensive and varied applications it doesn't seem to me
  to be very effective. The emersion heater is needed to raise the water
  temperature another 20 degrees all of the time and much more than that
  during heavy water use.

  As a pre-heater though warming the water entering the tank with heat
  generated from the air conditioning for example serves water heat savings as
  well as improving the efficiency of the air conditioning.

  The cost of a single purpose heat pump system must be relatively high, just
  think of a small room air conditioner. It is very similar technology.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

  Al
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
  [mailto:[email protected]
  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.

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