Dale & Dan,

Thanks to both of you for getting back to me before Terrie gets home and I
go to that damn hardware store. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe that
will help me better understand the suggestions you guys are making. When I
go away from home I have this thing I am concerned over and that is a water
leak while I'm gone for a week or so. I usually  shut off the main water
valve just below the water meter when we go away. The problem with this is
it is near the floor down behind the washer and it is quite a trick to lay
on the washer and reach that sucker. The main line runs right up behind the
washer and what I figured I'd do is simply cut the line and put an
additional shut off valve in the main line where it is nice & easy to reach.
However, I want one that opens fully like the one before the water meter so
as to not constrict the flow volume in the main line. I usually use
compression fittings when working with copper line and have never had a
problem. However with the newer stuff like shark bite fittings I thought
they may be better. I've never played with Pex or even seen it (unless that
is what the foot long or so things are going from my hot water heater and
connect to the copper pipe) so I don't want to get into something
complicated, I just want to insert a valve and then get onto more projects.
So, with this, what is the suggestion?

thanks
Al
  -----Original Message-----
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:44 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve



  Al,

  I think you may want a ball valve. They tend to be a lot more reliable
than gate valves.

  PEX is not the same thing, it is a plastic material. There are methods of
joining it to copper but I am unfamiliar with any of them except by sweating
threaded fittings onto the ends of the pipes to be linked with plastic types
of fitting. I seem to remember that there is a sort of bulbous fitting which
can be put onto the end of a copper pipe and the PEX heated and forced over
the bulb where it cools and contracts and is further secured with a band.
There may also be compression plastic fittings to clamp down over the ends
of the copper certainly there are such fittings for drain lines but I don't
know about pressured water lines.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

  Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
  shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
  what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
  retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
  they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
  said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
  both but never used either are these the same or
  interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
  on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
  feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
  fittings?

  thanks
  Al

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