Can you clarify what breakage may look like for sites that may rely on it? On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 2:34:46 PM UTC+2 Stephen McGruer wrote:
> > Any usecounter stats you can share? > > Unfortunately no usecounters for two reasons: > > 1) Payment APIs in general have very low usage when compared to 'page > loads', because the most popular sites on the web aren't merchants and so > don't use them. For example, PaymentRequest.show is at 0.001 > <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2895>. > They're still very important, so we have to measure usage other ways :) > > 2) In particular for basic-card, it's actually just a method-type of > PaymentRequest, so our top-level usecounters don't show it. > > We have internal stats that I can't share publicly due to sensitivity > (Googlers, feel free to ping me for a link), but I can share that of > transactions using PaymentRequest, basic-card is ~2% of all transactions > and <1% of completed transactions. So it's a very niche feature that also > performs poorly. > > Max has also done an analysis of the top 10 sites from UKM data that use > basic-card. For 4, he couldn't get to the payments page or couldn't get it > to trigger basic-card at all (possibly geographically gated), but for the > remaining 6 he confirmed that all 6 function properly in a version of > Chrome that has basic-card disabled (falling back to the same behavior they > use for Firefox + Safari). > > On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 03:26, Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:25 PM Liquan (Max) Gu <ma...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Contact emailsma...@chromium.org, payments-...@chromium.org >>> >>> Specificationhttps://www.w3.org/TR/payment-method-basic-card/ >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> Deprecate the "basic-card" payment method from PaymentRequest API. >>> >>> Blink componentBlink>Payments >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPayments> >>> >>> Motivation >>> >>> * Its usage is low and declining, underperforms other payment methods in >>> time-to-checkout and completion rate and does not have improvement >>> potential. >>> >> >> Any usecounter stats you can share? >> >>> * W3C's interest in it has waned. 6 participants supported the >>> deprecation and no objection[1], and W3C has deprecated the spec[2]. [1] >>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2021Aug/0038.html >>> [2] https://github.com/w3c/payment-method-basic-card/pull/90/files >>> >>> >>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>> * Chrome is the only implementer of basic-card, so the basic-card >>> removal from Chrome will increase interoperability. >>> * Since no other browser implements basic-card, web developers already >>> need workarounds to support other browsers. >>> * Whether basic-card is supported can be detected via canMakePayment >>> <https://w3c.github.io/payment-request/#canmakepayment-method>. Web >>> developers normally use this to decide whether to fallback to other methods. >>> * We have checked the few top sites via UKM - they all appear to work >>> with basic-card disabled because they fallback to other methods to get >>> payment info. >>> >>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1209835 >>> >>> Estimated milestonesM96 >>> >>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5730051011117056 >>> >>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>> <https://www.chromestatus.com/>. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAEWPi2sswphwqEnCGgwwNOr_F5j8V%3Dc5ZQ7Kz6h2gK%2Bki2A6aw%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAEWPi2sswphwqEnCGgwwNOr_F5j8V%3Dc5ZQ7Kz6h2gK%2Bki2A6aw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "payments-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to payments-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/payments-dev/CAL5BFfUaHsXJEEwN3JO2MSGw9WHsVt5nszPPscKh9mBrRt5U1g%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/payments-dev/CAL5BFfUaHsXJEEwN3JO2MSGw9WHsVt5nszPPscKh9mBrRt5U1g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/674269fd-f6ef-4115-b5c0-a93eb8b25978n%40chromium.org.
