On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 10:04 AM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 4:45 PM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:20 PM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:04 PM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:27 PM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Philip,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the belated reply. Comments inline:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:31 PM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've made a full pass of the intent now. I have a lot of questions,
>>>>>> but am pretty convinced we should ship this, it's just a matter of what
>>>>>> things need to block that, and what things can be left until later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments inline...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 6:55 AM Yutaka Hirano <yhir...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yhir...@chromium.org, vasi...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/blob/main/explainer.md
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://w3c.github.io/webtransport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-webtrans-http3/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-quic-datagram/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I skimmed https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/ and see
>>>>>> multiple issues filed by other browser vendors. Are any of the remaining
>>>>>> issues ones that could change the API's shape or behavior? It would be 
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> to resolve any such issues, since they won't be possible to address once
>>>>>> the API is locked in by sites depending on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I believe we've addressed issues that may require breaking changes.
>>>>> You can see open <https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/milestone/1>/
>>>>> closed <https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/milestone/1?closed=1> issues
>>>>> for the initial launch (this intent).  I shared our plan
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X9-a03rtm0FqTW01nG6e7f91NAguGEv37mP964HrJlk/edit#heading=h.v9yxozj8naro>
>>>>>  at a WG meeting in May
>>>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebTransport/Meetings#WebTransport_Bi-weekly_Virtual_Meeting_.2316_late_-_May_25.2C_2021>
>>>>>  and
>>>>> we've been working to find and resolve such issues since then.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see, creating a milestone for this is really handy! Are the remaining
>>>> issue in https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/milestone/1 not blocking
>>>> then, even issue #349 <https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/349>?
>>>>
>>>
>>> *Except for issue #349* we have consensus on discussions. As Victor
>>> commented in this thread, we can ship WebTransport *except for *
>>> customeCertificationHashes
>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webtransport/#dom-webtransportoptions-servercertificatehashes>
>>>  if
>>> needed.
>>>
>>
>> If custom certificates is a nice-to-have then shipping without it seems
>> fine to me. That would mean removing serverCertificateHashes from the
>> dictionary, right? I ask because the spec also says something
>> about NotSupportedError when the protocol doesn't support it, but it seems
>> better to behave as if the feature doesn't exist at all.
>>
>>
> The property is protected by WebTransportCustomCertificates
> <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:third_party/blink/renderer/modules/webtransport/web_transport_options.idl>,
> so when we enable only WebTransport, the property will be invisible.
>

Great, thanks for confirming!


> Looking through some other issues:
>>
>>    - Can https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/59 be resolved for
>>    the WebPKI case? If CSP currently has no effect, then adding it on later
>>    could be hard because some sites could already be using CSP that would
>>    block it, and those sites would be broken by adding CSP support later.
>>
>>
> Yes I think so. We check the "connect-src" directive. It is tested as
> csp-fail.https.window.js
> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/webtransport/csp-fail.https.window.js>
> and csp-pass.window.js
> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/webtransport/csp-pass.https.window.js>
> .
>

That's good, the risk I was worried about doesn't exist then. Would you
consider that this behavior is required by some spec, even though it's not
mentioned in https://w3c.github.io/webtransport/? If not, then do you think
it's reasonable to prioritize the spec work for this before this reaches
stable?


>>    - https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/175 sounds editorial but
>>    doesn't have that label. If any code would change as a result of fixing 
>> it,
>>    should this be done before shipping?
>>
>> I think this is to describe our current protection and won't affect
> implementation.
>
>
>>
>>    - https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/236 has no discussion,
>>    could it have any impact on implementation?
>>
>> This is about how to describe algorithms in the spec in terms of
> threading, and this won't impact implementation.
>

 Again, thanks for confirming!

>

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