On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 2:38 AM Joe Medley <jmed...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > Can I get some clarification? > > So this extends the origin trial through 96, but you don't know yet > whether it will ship in 97? Is this correct? > We're shipping WebTransport over HTTP/3 in 97. > Joe > Joe Medley | Technical Writer, Chrome DevRel | jmed...@google.com | > 816-678-7195 <(816)%20678-7195> > *If an API's not documented it doesn't exist.* > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 1:00 AM Mike West <mk...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> LGTM3. >> >> -mike >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> For a gapless origin trial->shipping it is important to be sure we don't >>> overlook any feedback in the race to shipping. The normal process has gaps >>> built in which form natural points to do that final polish based on >>> received feedback and that will be missing here. >>> >>> It does sound like the feedback has been positive though and that there >>> are no known problems that can't be fixed after shipping, and with that in >>> mind: >>> >>> LGTM2 >>> On 2021-10-21 21:53, Yoav Weiss wrote: >>> >>> Discussing amongst the API owners (Alex, Daniel, Rego and myself), this >>> is essentially a request for a gapless OT, only that the would-be-gap is >>> slightly longer than usual. Given the evidence >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/kwC5wES3I4c/m/2WxYhllhAAAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> of >>> developer feedback presented in the I2S, that seems like a reasonable >>> request. >>> >>> LGTM1 (as gapless OT requests require 3 LGTMs) >>> >>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 10:39:14 AM UTC+2 Yutaka Hirano wrote: >>> >>>> Contact emails >>>> >>>> yhir...@chromium.org,vasi...@chromium.org >>>> >>>> Explainer >>>> >>>> https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/blob/main/explainer.md >>>> >>>> Design docs/spec >>>> >>>> Specification: https://w3c.github.io/webtransport/#web-transport >>>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UgviRBnZkMUq4OKcsAJvIQFX6UCXeCbOtX_wMgwD_es/edit >>>> >>>> TAG review >>>> >>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/669 >>>> >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> WebTransport is an interface representing a set of reliable/unreliable >>>> streams to a server. The interface potentially supports multiple protocols, >>>> but based on discussions on the IETF webtrans working group, we are >>>> developing WebTransport over HTTP/3 which uses HTTP3 as the underlying >>>> protocol. >>>> >>>> Note that we were developing QuicTransport a.k.a. WebTransport over >>>> QUIC and we ran an origin trial M84 through M90. It uses the same interface >>>> WebTransport, but because of the protocol difference ("quic-transport" vs. >>>> "https") it is difficult for web developers to be confused by them. >>>> >>>> new WebTransport("quic-transport://example.com:9922") >>>> >>>> represents a WebTransport over QUIC connection, and >>>> >>>> new WebTransport("https://example.com:9922";) >>>> >>>> represents a WebTransport over HTTP/3 connection. >>>> >>>> Goals for experimentation >>>> >>>> We're shipping the API in M97 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/kwC5wES3I4c/m/2WxYhllhAAAJ>. >>>> Twitch, one of our partners, wants to continue their experiment until the >>>> API is fully shipped. I think this is a reasonable request given we >>>> originally aimed to ship the feature in M96 but we missed the branch point. >>>> >>>> The original goals follow: >>>> >>>> To see whether the API (and the implementation) is useful in various >>>> circumstances. >>>> >>>> Our partners want to evaluate this API on various network circumstances >>>> (i.e., lab environments are not enough) to see its effectiveness. >>>> >>>> We also expect feedback for performance. >>>> >>>> Experimental timeline >>>> >>>> M95 and M96 >>>> >>>> Ongoing technical constraints >>>> >>>> None >>>> >>>> Debuggability >>>> >>>> The devtools support is under development. >>>> >>>> Just like with regular HTTP/3 traffic, the detailed information about >>>> the connection can be obtained via chrome://net-export interface. >>>> >>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>> Mac, Linux, >>>> >>>> Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>>> >>>> Yes >>>> >>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> No >>>> >>>> We have browser tests, but we are going to port them to WPT. >>>> >>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>> >>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/4854144902889472 >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/9ffa05b8-fbbf-4f2a-975d-be72a1089ebcn%40chromium.org >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/9ffa05b8-fbbf-4f2a-975d-be72a1089ebcn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/a2d36d19-d8dd-20e2-638a-001304d9a8c9%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/a2d36d19-d8dd-20e2-638a-001304d9a8c9%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAKXHy%3DfwHejzJF2a8st5OZ5zEjutAWEHrxoUVD6q40yneSzXUg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAKXHy%3DfwHejzJF2a8st5OZ5zEjutAWEHrxoUVD6q40yneSzXUg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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