Thanks everyone for the feedback so far. After talking to developers and
considering the options, we have decided to postpone the launch of this
deprecation while we investigate adding a feature policy, which may take
some time. We will provide several months of advance notice in the future
when we decide to re-enable it, and the enterprise policy and origin trial
opt-outs will be available at that point.

In the meantime, if you want to test Chrome with the behavior enabled, you
can do so by running with the
‘enable_features=SuppressDifferentOriginSubframeJSDialogs’
command line flag.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:44 AM Lewis Chan <yeou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does it mean that if I signup for the Origin Trials, I have until July
> 2022 to resolve this?
>
> On Tuesday, 28 September 2021 at 06:35:07 UTC+8 carl...@chromium.org
> wrote:
>
>> This change remains disabled, and will be re-enabled at the earliest in
>> January 2022. When this is re-enabled, the enterprise policy and origin
>> trial opt outs will remain available for at least 6 months.
>>
>> -Carlos
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 9:44 PM Emmanuel Law <emmanu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the latest status of this? Ideally we would like more
>>> information on when this deprecation will take place so that we can
>>> strategize on a longer term solution vs a short term solution depending on
>>> the date.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:16:59 PM UTC-7 carl...@chromium.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re: Stilll seeing the breakage, this was indeed disabled via Chrome
>>>> Variations, so if something is interfering with variations (like an
>>>> enterprise policy), that could be the reason you still see this. This was
>>>> also disabled in code starting in 92.0.4515.146.
>>>>
>>>> Re: A message in DevTools, we are planning to add a note in DevTools
>>>> about this API being deprecated.
>>>>
>>>> Re: Testing while this is disabled by default, you can do so by running
>>>> chrome with
>>>> the --enable-features="SuppressDifferentOriginSubframeJSDialogs" command
>>>> line flag
>>>>
>>>> -Carlos
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:11 AM Pritpal Singh <
>>>> psi...@watermarkinsights.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How can we re-enable this deprecation on latest version of chrome, we
>>>>> need it to test the alternatives. Please guide.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:05:24 PM UTC+5:30 Yang Guo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there plans for a soft deprecation through DevTools?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of removing right away,  you could raise issues in DevTools
>>>>>> when these APIs are used to warn developers of upcoming deprecation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 8:36:16 PM UTC+2
>>>>>> wande...@chromium.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the tested chrome browser managed using enterprise policies?
>>>>>>> It's possible an enterprise policy could be interfering with the finch 
>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>> switch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:31 PM Daniel Bratell <brat...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not in that engineering team but as far as I understand, the
>>>>>>>> change was done through the Finch system, which is settings your Chrome
>>>>>>>> client will regularly download from Google server. That might not 
>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>> immediately which could possibly explain what you see. But maybe the 
>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>> can follow up with more information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Daniel
>>>>>>>> On 2021-08-19 16:33, Pierce McGeough wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the current state of play with this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought *92.0.4515.157* was the most version of Chrome where the
>>>>>>>> issue was reverted. I downloaded *92.0.4515.107 *with it looking
>>>>>>>> like it was the most recent version to still have the blocker in place.
>>>>>>>> I also have 91.0.4472.144 on another machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tested no attribute, "sandbox", "sandbox='allow-scripts'" and
>>>>>>>> "sandbox='allow-scripts allow-modals''. I tested against running a 
>>>>>>>> script,
>>>>>>>> alert, confirm, print and prompt. All versions gave the same results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 11:02:46 AM UTC+1 Daniel Bratell
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Technically those are two different domains, even though they are
>>>>>>>>> likely controlled by the same party. There are ways to "join" 
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> domains (like setting the document.domain
>>>>>>>>> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/domain>
>>>>>>>>> property), or identify which second level domains have only one
>>>>>>>>> controller <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Public_Suffix_List> and
>>>>>>>>> which has more, but they are unreliable and are being phased out
>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/mikewest/deprecating-document-domain/>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are right that this is a common setup in enterprises and that
>>>>>>>>> has to be considered when discussing how possibly malicious 
>>>>>>>>> cross-origin
>>>>>>>>> alerts and prompts can be prevented.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Daniel
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-08-04 15:38, Hugo Leitao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you block for the same domain? Sample:
>>>>>>>>> https://123.mydomain.com and subframe https://abc.mydomain.com
>>>>>>>>> Too many corporate applications will be affected. Regards
>>>>>>>>> Em sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2021 às 21:06:14 UTC-3,
>>>>>>>>> carl...@chromium.org escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We decided to disable this deprecation temporarily (for 2 weeks,
>>>>>>>>>> until August 15, 2021) to provide more time for websites to address 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> issues caused by this change, or enroll affected origins in the 
>>>>>>>>>> origin
>>>>>>>>>> trial.
>>>>>>>>>> If neither the origin trial or the enterprise policy address your
>>>>>>>>>> concerns, please comment in the implementation bug at
>>>>>>>>>> crbug.com/1065085.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The configuration to disable the deprecation should reach most
>>>>>>>>>> Chrome instances in a few hours, but in some cases might take longer.
>>>>>>>>>> Chrome needs to be restarted for the change to take effect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> -Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 5:24 AM Pritpal Singh <
>>>>>>>>>> psi...@watermarkinsights.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we use the document.domain='example.com' on the pages of our
>>>>>>>>>>> site under same domain, will the opening in iframe will be excluded 
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> this impact?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 11:39:18 PM UTC+5:30 Manuel Torres
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion but it’s not the output what worries
>>>>>>>>>>>> me but the input instead. When teaching JavaScript to a 10 year 
>>>>>>>>>>>> old using
>>>>>>>>>>>> prompts was key for many exercises. At least there should be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> setting to
>>>>>>>>>>>> momentarily disable this behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Jul 2021, at 17:53, Carlos Joan Rafael Ibarra Lopez <
>>>>>>>>>>>> carl...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For simple output when teaching, I'd recommend switching to
>>>>>>>>>>>> console.log, which would work in this case, and is more well 
>>>>>>>>>>>> suited for
>>>>>>>>>>>> that usecase.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporarily, sites such as codepen can enroll in the trial to
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintain this functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:40 PM Manuel Torres <
>>>>>>>>>>>> torres...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We use sites such as codepen.io to deliver JavaScript
>>>>>>>>>>>>> training to many kids, since this update we can't do simple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaScript
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompts and alerts from codepen.io and many of our training
>>>>>>>>>>>>> material is now useless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manuel Torres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> El miércoles, 28 de julio de 2021 a las 15:44:38 UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl...@google.com escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Affected sites can use the origin trial to temporarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opt-out of this change (additionally, in enterprise settings, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enterprise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromeenterprise.google/policies/#SuppressDifferentOriginSubframeDialogs>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be used to opt-out). As a permanent solution though, sites 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop relying on alert, confirm, and prompt, and will instead 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement similar functionality directly in the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 12:06 AM Dmitry Liamtsev <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lyam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is very bad news for me. My corporative soft modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployed on many ports and integrates with iframes...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вторник, 27 июля 2021 г. в 19:00:03 UTC+3, wong spark:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you cancel the cross sub-domain block?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在2021年7月13日星期二 UTC+8 上午1:06:21<carl...@google.com> 写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M92 will indeed enable the blocking of JS dialogs usage on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different origin subframes by default on Stable. You can use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecation trial to temporarily bypass the block.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 5:14 AM Liang Stanley <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kaika...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've found M92 beta has enable this feature. Does M92
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable  enable it by default?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, cannot use alert(), confirm().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Stanley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carl...@google.com 在 2021年6月11日 星期五下午11:51:57 [UTC+8]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 的信中寫道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The plan is to keep the trial in until M96
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Carlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 8:46 AM Chris Harrelson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chri...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long do you intend to run the deprecation trial?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be a deadline in order to make clear to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited time to fix their content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:36 PM Yoav Weiss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yoav...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LGTM1 - a deprecation trial seems like a good way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (temporarily) resolve the issues we've run into when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to remove this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and give developers more time to move away from current 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:57 AM 'Carlos Joan Rafael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ibarra Lopez' via blink-dev <blin...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails carl...@chromium.org,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mea...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Explainer None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/timers-and-user-prompts.html#cannot-show-simple-dialogs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrome allows iframes to trigger Javascript dialogs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows “<URL> says ...” when the iframe is the same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin as the top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame, and “An embedded page on this page says...” when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iframe is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cross-origin. The current UX is confusing, and has 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously led to spoofs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where sites pretend the message comes from Chrome or a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Removing support for cross origin iframes’ ability to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trigger the UI will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevent this kind of spoofing, and unblock further UI 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>WindowDialog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EWindowDialog>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In total, around 0.009% of page loads would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected by the removal. We believe that core 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> severely degraded, since the ability for users to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disable JS prompts means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sites already can’t rely on JS dialogs to always be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gecko: Positive (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5407) Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has already implemented this behind a flag, and was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supportive of the spec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebKit: Positive (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5407) Safari
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has not implemented, but they were supportive of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spec change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web developers: No signals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Expected to be security positive by reducing spoofing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surfaces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goals for experimentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin-trial based opt out was suggested in intent to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove to diminish breakage risks. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/hTOXiBj3D6A/m/Uo8eLpUMBAAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the relevant discusison.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reason this experiment is being extended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name SuppressDifferentOriginSubframeJSDialogs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1065085
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5148698084376576
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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