Friendly ping. On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 7:11:49 pm UTC+11 Alan Cutter wrote:
> Request to extend M97 experiment end date to avoid breaking sites while > transitioning to the new launch_handler > <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md> API. > > - The launch_handler experiment has been approved > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/wNOClobsLrs> for > M97-M102 but due to implementation issues will start in M98. > > - To allow clients to migrate over to launch_handler > <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md> > seamlessly we need to keep the DLC behavior available until existing users > have had a chance to update to M98. > > - To cover the February M98 Chrome OS rollout this extension request is > to go up to 2022-03-31 (assuming ~1 month to roll out to a majority of > users). > > - To avoid burn-in risk we will remove DLC from M98. This is the same > strategy > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/uoTx_cRuL5o/m/6-6E9LzuDQAJ> > > that the Digital Goods API experiment took for their v2 migration. > > Previous experiment timeline > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/q6ivDcvAJwQ/m/XTlva-lGBQAJ>: > > M90 to M93 Approved extension timeline > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2c4bul4V3GQ>: M94 > to M97 Requested extension timeline: Up to 2022-03-31 but only for M97 > browsers and earlier. > > On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 4:45:25 pm UTC+10 Yoav Weiss wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:33 PM Jason Chase <cha...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 14:32, Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> LGTM to extend M94-M97 >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:12 AM Alan Cutter <alancut...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 at 23:46, Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:33 AM Alan Cutter <alancut...@chromium.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mgi...@chromium.org, alancut...@chromium.org, tbuck...@chromium.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Explainer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/master/declarative_link_capturing.md >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>> >>>>>>> None >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New Web App Manifest member to control what happens when the user >>>>>>> navigates to a page within scope of an installed web app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This feature introduces the "capture_links" member, an enumeration >>>>>>> allowing the customization of link capturing behaviour, allowing >>>>>>> sites to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Automatically open a new PWA window when the user clicks a link >>>>>>> to their app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Have a "single window mode" like mobile apps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blink component >>>>>>> >>>>>>> UI>Browser>WebAppInstalls >>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:UI%3EBrowser%3EWebAppInstalls> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Search tags >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pwa <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:pwa>, link capturing >>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:link%20capturing> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TAG review >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/589 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TAG review status >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In progress >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RisksInteroperability and Compatibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very small, since any browser not implementing this will just fall >>>>>>> back to the standard behaviour, which is to navigate to links in a >>>>>>> browser >>>>>>> tab. >>>>>>> This member is also forwards compatible as it can accept a list of >>>>>>> behaviours, older browsers will bypass any new ones that are added >>>>>>> later. >>>>>>> Gecko: No signal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Edge: Strong positive, this compliments their efforts for >>>>>>> url_handlers >>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/pwa-url-handler/blob/master/explainer.md>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WebKit: No signal >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It may make sense to reach out for signals at some point. >>>>>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Will be reaching out for signals on the Launch Handling API instead as >>>>> it develops. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web developers: No signals >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't you have developers already participating in the OT? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, should have updated this. Strong positive from existing clients >>>>> using DLC, unfortunately I can't point to any public statements here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reason this experiment is being extended >>>>>>> A new API shape, Launch Handling >>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/sw-launch/blob/main/launch_handler.md>, >>>>>>> has evolved from the current spec work on Declarative Link Capturing >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> URL Handlers. Transition doc >>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w9qHqVJmZfO07kbiRMd9lDQMW15DeK5o-p-rZyL7twk/edit#> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That seems like a significant change. Would it make sense to send out >>>>>> a separate intent to experiment, to make that part clearer? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry it wasn't clear. This extension is not intended for the Launch >>>>> Handling API, that will be a separate experiment request later once it's >>>>> ready. This extension is intended to create an overlap between the DLC >>>>> and >>>>> LH experiments so existing DLC users can transition over to LH. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This extension is being requested to enable existing uses of the DLC >>>>>>> experiment transition over to the Launch Handling API once it is ready >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> experimentation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we can have different intents, but still converge on the same >>>>>> experiment tokens, to avoid churn for existing users. +Jason Chase >>>>>> <cha...@google.com>, is that actually correct? >>>>>> >>>>> Likely a moot point now, but... >>> Assuming you mean different intents = different trials shown in the OT >>> console, it's not possible to use the same tokens. The name used in the >>> tokens has to be unique across trials. >>> >> >> OK, thanks! That's useful info (for next time). >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Previous experiment timeline: M90 to M93 >>>>>>> Requested extension timeline: M94 to M97 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints >>>>>>> >>>>>>> None >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not supported on Android, their window model doesn’t make sense for >>>>>>> “new-client”. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5734953453092864 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Intent to prototype: >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2ZnA1IrSpS8 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Intent to experiment: >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/q6ivDcvAJwQ/m/XTlva-lGBQAJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>> <https://www.chromestatus.com/>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CANJJ2Cn7vN6hgras59Sn4%3DksdueFxrtatZLm7fFDo5uSpwSQoA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CANJJ2Cn7vN6hgras59Sn4%3DksdueFxrtatZLm7fFDo5uSpwSQoA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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