Hi Rick & Frédéric,

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:27 PM Rick Byers <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I wonder if we have metrics about unrenderable characters? I.e. how often
> we fail to render some text because the glyph isn't present in the selected
> font? If we did, then I think it would be pretty easy to do a finch trial
> for changes like this and decide go/no-go based on that data.
>

We used to have a metric to tell us for which Unicode code block no
fallback character was found after the primary fonts, user preference font
and system fallback, but I think we removed that after it had given us the
useful information that these were mostly math symbols and some emoji. For
privacy reasons we can't have a metric to track missing glyph coverage for
single characters, but the bucketed Unicode block approach worked. To my
knowledge we do not (and did not) have metrics on coverage/missing glyphs
per selected font.

Dominik


> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 4:27 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Based on +Rick Byers <[email protected]>'s HA for webcompat document
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cpjWFoXBiuFYI4zb9I7wHs7uYZ0ntbOgLwH-mgqXdEM/edit#>,
>> I just ran the following query:
>> ```
>> SELECT url FROM `httparchive.latest.pages_mobile`
>> WHERE JSON_EXTRACT(payload, "$._blinkFeatureFirstUsed.Features['3987']")
>> IS NOT NULL
>> ```
>> Results are here
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WZTRBujaaFrtUaRnBOoVYzJkZuColXFN-GgToF6nR5Q/edit?usp=sharing>
>> .
>> In short, there are 191 pages that touch this usecounter, out of 7655542
>> pages in that table. (or ~0.0025% of pages)
>>
>> This resolves my previous concerns about HA showing an order of magnitude
>> more usage than our chromestatus use counter data.
>>
>> While digging into UKM data could be interesting, it'd take some time to
>> gather, so it might be sufficient to take a random sample from the HA list
>> and see what the impact on those sites would be.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:49 AM Frédéric Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 18/11/2021 à 21:29, Chris Harrelson a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to get results of top pages hitting the use
>>>> counter, so one can analyze them more carefully ? Do we need to do any
>>>> additional change in Chromium to make that possible ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> chromestatus.com already has this feature, by combining UseCounter with
>>> HTTPArchive. It can take a while for this data to be populated though,
>>> because of latency in the indexing.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Last week Chromestatus was showing wrong results, basically for any
>>> feature it was returning matches for all HTTPArchive pages. Now it returns
>>> no data at all for -webkit-standard. Not sure if we need to wait more
>>> before indexing happens...
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I was thinking of something we did for scroll position values
>>> in non-default writing modes in the past [1] i.e. use UKM to better collect
>>> and analyze affected origins and maybe introducing a finch flag to ship
>>> this more safely (the code change to disable that is one line [2] so that
>>> should be easy). But IIRC we will need help from a Googler for that purpose.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/7X2CKPGeEa0/m/7Rau54VwDQAJ
>>>
>>> [2] https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3282157
>>>
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