On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:22 PM Vivek Sekhar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This particular technique has been discussed before, but there's a
>> flaw which wasn't mentioned in this email. The idea assumes that all
>> end users can access the same websites and also that all end users
>> visit similar websites. Neither of those is a given and as such end
>> users that for one reason or another only end up visiting one or two
>> websites that use a "pervasive payload" could be vulnerable to attack.
>
> Thanks for raising this. When you say "can access," are you referring to e.g. 
> national governments or ISPs blocking access to large numbers of 
> otherwise-popular sites? If so, would geography-specific lists of pervasive 
> payloads mitigate this concern? If not, can you provide more details on the 
> scenario you have in mind?

That is part of the concern, but end users can be segmented in more
ways than that. If an end user minority in a region doesn't visit the
websites the end user majority visits, but a website they do visit
uses a "pervasive payload", you have the same risk. The last time we
discussed this in depth I don't think anyone came up with a solution
that would solve this other than with variations on bundling
"pervasive payloads". I'm rather surprised it's coming up again
without accounting for these issues.

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