On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:31 AM Shivani Sharma <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Contact emails
>
> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>
> Explainer
>
> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/tree/master/explainer
>
> Specification
>
> https://wicg.github.io/fenced-frame/ (a rough shell at this point)
>
> Summary
>
> In a web that has its cookies and storage partitioned by top-frame site,
> there are occasions (such as Interest group based advertising
> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove> or Conversion Lift Measurements
> <https://github.com/w3c/web-advertising/blob/main/support_for_advertising_use_cases.md#conversion-lift-measurement>)
> when it would be useful to display content from different partitions in the
> same page. This can only be allowed if the documents that contain data from
> different partitions are isolated from each other such that they're
> visually composed on the page, but unable to communicate with each other.
> Iframes do not suit this purpose since they have several communication
> channels with their embedding frame (e.g., postMessage, URLs, size
> attribute, etc.). We propose fenced frames, a new element to embed
> documents on a page, that explicitly prevents communication between the
> embedder and the frame.
>
>
>
> This intent to experiment is scoped to the two initial modes of fenced
> frames:
>
>    -
>
>    Opaque-ads:
>    
> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/modes.md#opaque-ads
>    -
>
>    Default:
>
>
> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/modes.md#default-mode
>
>
> Blink component
>
> Blink>FencedFrames
> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EFencedFrames>
>
> TAG review
>
> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/735
>
> TAG review status
>
> Pending
>
> Risks
> Interoperability
>
> Gecko: No signal
>
> WebKit: No signal
>

Might be good to ask for signals.


>
> Edge: Edge is also exploring interest group based advertising, namely with the
> PARAKEET proposal
> <https://github.com/WICG/privacy-preserving-ads/blob/main/Parakeet.md>.
> PARAKEET, similar to TURTLEDOVE, relies on fenced frames for rendering the
> ad in the opaque-ads mode and are interested in collaborating (comment on
> WICG issue
> <https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/52#issuecomment-1063481655>).
>
> Web developers: Fenced frames (specifically the opaque-ads mode) are
> designed as a requirement for certain Privacy Sandbox APIs, like FLEDGE
> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/FLEDGE.md#4-browsers-render-the-winning-ad>.
> There is significant interest in FLEDGE from many web advertising
> technology developers. WICG FLEDGE calls
> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/88> are well attended and
> fenced frames have sometimes been discussed with developers as part of
> those calls.
>
> Compatibility risks
>
> Fenced frames do not deprecate or change existing web behavior, so there
> should be no compatibility risk.
>
> From other browsers' perspective, there may be medium-term
> interoperability risk with regards to having an architecture that enables
> the separation of fenced frames from the embedding page. Chrome's fenced
> frame design is based on a significant architecture project that makes this
> possible (Multiple Page Architecture
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NginQ8k0w3znuwTiJ5qjYmBKgZDekvEPC22q0I4swxQ/edit?usp=sharing>
> ).
>
> (Note that there have been discussions with other browsers for fenced
> frames in the context of other use cases like unpartitioned storage access
> e.g. this issue <https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/41>,
> but that is not applicable to this fenced frame mode.)
>
>
>
>               Security
>
> Security considerations
> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Original-TURTLEDOVE.md#security-considerations>are
> detailed here
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/tree/master/explainer#security-considerations>
> .
>
> Privacy
>
> Privacy considerations are detailed here
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/tree/master/explainer#privacy-considerations>
> .
>
> Browser Performance
>
> In the current implementation, there isn’t a significant performance
> concern but we will be doing performance analysis when we do implement
> enhanced process isolation for fenced frames as per
> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/process_isolation.md
>
> Goals for experimentation
>
> We hope to get feedback from ad tech companies on their usage of fenced
> frames as part of FLEDGE
> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/FLEDGE.md#4-browsers-render-the-winning-ad>
> .
>
> Experiment Configuration
>
> The origin trial for this experiment will be shared among various Privacy
> Sandbox APIs. Our goal is to allow for coordinated experiments to be run by
> multiple different sites, across multiple APIs in one OT.
>
> This shared origin trial, Privacy Sandbox Ads APIs, will be a third-party
> origin trial. To ensure that developers can run coordinated experiments
> without concern for exceeding page load usage thresholds, this Origin Trial
> will be available for a subset of users by default. Therefore, it will be
> necessary to feature test to ensure that the API surface you want to use is
> available after providing your OT token. A second advantage of this
> configuration is that different experimenters will experiment with the same
> users, which enables coordination for APIs like FLEDGE across third parties.
>
> Ongoing technical constraints
>
> The following mitigations will not be part of the initial OT and will be
> addressed in upcoming milestones:
>
>    -
>
>    Intersection observer will be supported just like in iframes initially
>    in the OT but will eventually be replaced with a more private API. This is
>    further described in the explainer here
>    
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/integration_with_web_platform.md#viewability>
>    .
>    -
>
>    While cookies will be partitioned in a unique and ephemeral partition
>    from the start of the OT, other storage APIs
>    
> <https://github.com/wanderview/quota-storage-partitioning/blob/main/explainer.md#storage-apis>
>    as well as communication
>    
> <https://github.com/wanderview/quota-storage-partitioning/blob/main/explainer.md#communication-apis>
>    and service worker APIs
>    
> <https://github.com/wanderview/quota-storage-partitioning/blob/main/explainer.md#serviceworker-api>
>    will be partitioned later as described in the explainer here
>    
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/storage_cookies_network_state.md#not-available-in-the-first-version>
>    .
>    -
>
>    Network side channel mitigations as described in the explainer here
>    
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/network_side_channel.md>
>    .
>    -
>
>    See ongoing technical constraints
>    
> <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/blob/master/explainer/README.md#ongoing-technical-constraints>
>    for more challenges like covert channels.
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> Fenced frames are supported in developer tools, similar to iframes.
>
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>
> Yes.
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
> ?
>
> Yes.
>
> Flag name
>
> FencedFrames
>
> Also requires “NoncedPartitionedCookies”
>
> Requires code in //chrome?
>
> No.
>
> Launch bug
>
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1208744
>
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1171739
>
> Estimated milestones
>
> We hope to start the Origin Trial sometime during M102 beta.
>

Is the current intent to run it till M104 (inclusive), similar to other
intents under this OT umbrella?


>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5699388062040064
>
> Links to previous Intent discussions
>
> Intent to prototype:
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/w9hm8eQCmNI>
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ko9UXQYPgUE/m/URRsB-qvAAAJ
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