It is not possible to get onto DOD sites today without loading certs, so
there are lots of hills to climb.
I would like to start testing this asap - what do I need to do?
..tom


On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 9:09 AM Christian Biesinger <cbiesin...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> While I don't know if this specific proposal would support it, things like
> the various EU countries' citizen cards (using their national IDs for
> authenticating to government services) do not use TLS client certs, instead
> relying on other software that needs to be installed.
>
> Christian
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 5:13 PM agowa338 <agowa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What's the difference between this proposal to just using HTTPS client
>> auth with a certificate on a smartcard? That's basically what we've been
>> using for decades now...
>>
>> rei...@chromium.org schrieb am Mittwoch, 21. September 2022 um 20:41:56
>> UTC+2:
>>
>>> Not mentioned above but included in the explainer: To mitigate some of
>>> the obvious security concerns this API will only be available to Isolated
>>> Web Apps <https://github.com/WICG/isolated-web-apps>.
>>> Reilly Grant | Software Engineer | rei...@chromium.org | Google Chrome
>>> <https://www.google.com/chrome>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:00 AM 'Daniel d'Andrada' via blink-dev <
>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emailsdand...@google.com
>>>>
>>>> Explainer
>>>> https://github.com/dandrader/web-smart-card/blob/main/README.md
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Enables smart card (PC/SC) applications to move to the Web platform. It
>>>> gives them access to the PC/SC implementation (and card reader drivers)
>>>> available in the host OS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blink componentBlink
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink>
>>>>
>>>> Motivation
>>>>
>>>> While there are other APIs that provide the right level of abstraction
>>>> and security properties for identity on the Web, such as WebAuthn, there
>>>> are domain-specific functions which can't be captured by such higher-level
>>>> APIs. A remote access (aka "remote desktop") web app letting the remote
>>>> machine access the host's card reader as if it were directly connected to
>>>> it. Enabling PC/SC applications on that remote machine to work without
>>>> modification, unaware that the card reader is not local. A web-based kiosk
>>>> could read even simple RFID badges via PC/SC and then display relevant
>>>> information on a screen. It's also not uncommon for such readers to need
>>>> control commands to put them into the proper state for reading the
>>>> particular type of card the application supports.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Initial public proposalhttps://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/64
>>>>
>>>> TAG review statusPending
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>
>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>
>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>
>>>> *Other signals*: PC/SC developers. Generally positive. (see e-mail
>>>> thread
>>>> <http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/pcsclite-muscle/2022-August/001282.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> WebView application risks
>>>> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?*
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ?No
>>>>
>>>> Flag nameSmartCard
>>>>
>>>> Requires code in //chrome?Yes. Similarly to other device APIs like
>>>> WebHID and WebUSB.
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>
>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6411735804674048
>>>>
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>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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