Hello! I wanted to mention that we have an partner that is also really 
interested in this API, as long as providing a 'launch time' timestamp so 
they can measure the full e2e time it takes to launch the app, either 
through desktop shortcut or things like file handlers.

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 10:22:20 PM UTC-7 yoav...@chromium.org wrote:

> Hey Ben! Thanks for working on this! This seems like an important 
> dimension to potentially split metrics on.
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:36 PM 'Ben Mathwig' via blink-dev <
> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Contact emails 
>>
>> bema...@microsoft.com
>>
>>
>> Explainer 
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/PerformanceNavigationTiming%20for%20User%20Agent%20Launch/explainer.md
>>
>>
>> Specification 
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/PerformanceNavigationTiming%20for%20User%20Agent%20Launch/explainer.md
>>
>>
>> Summary 
>>
>> Adds a new value for PerformanceNavigationTiming.type, 
>> 'useragent_launch', to help measure the cold start scenario during page 
>> load. This allows a web developer to measure the performance of their 
>> application code compared to the cost of browser initialization tasks. This 
>> is a pain point for pinned PWAs or WebView apps that will often require a 
>> cold start of the user agent.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> Blink component 
>>
>> Blink>PerformanceAPIs>NavigationTiming 
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPerformanceAPIs%3ENavigationTiming>
>>
>>
>> Motivation 
>>
>> Despite the variety of performance measurements available through the 
>> current API, it's difficult to discern from the NavigationType whether the 
>> measurements reflect those of a regular navigation under normal browsing or 
>> of one where the browser is in a non-optimal performance state, such as a 
>> cold start. A browser launch is one of the most expensive performance 
>> scenarios commonly encountered in typical PWA and WebView patterns. Our 
>> proposal seeks to create a new value for the NavigationType enum to 
>> differentiate this condition from others in measurements of web application 
>> performance. Modifying the NavigationType to include state for a user agent 
>> launch (i.e. useragent_launch) will enable engineers to determine whether a 
>> given measurement is taken from a launch scenario, enabling greater 
>> differentiation of application performance from browser performance in 
>> scenarios where the browser engine is launched and terminated frequently. 
>> Examples include: Electron apps, system WebViews, or other application 
>> scenarios where the browser is relatively short-lived or commonly launched 
>> from a terminated state.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> Initial public proposal 
>>
>>
>> https://discourse.wicg.io/t/proposal-user-agent-launch-type-in-performancenavigationtiming/5875
>>
>
> Might be worthwhile to also file an issue on 
> https://github.com/w3c/navigation-timing/issues
> With my WebPerfWG chair hat on, I'd love to have you over to discuss this 
> :)
>
>
>>
>>
>> TAG review 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> TAG review status 
>>
>> Pending
>>
>>
>> Risks 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>>
>> WebView application risks 
>>
>> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Debuggability 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ? 
>>
>> No
>>
>>
>> Flag name 
>>
>> MsUserAgentLaunchNavType
>>
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome? 
>>
>> False
>>
>>
>> Estimated milestones 
>>
>> M105
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 
>>
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5186950448283648
>>
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