LGTM3

On 11/30/22 7:19 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
LGTM2

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:17 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

    Thanks for driving the naming issue to resolution Arthur. Given
    the lack of engagement on the mozilla standards position issue, I
    don't see anything else concrete that should block shipping. I
    also think we could make an investment in negative sandbox flags
    independently if there were consensus that it was the right thing
    to do, but that's also a very long running debate (eg. we went
    over it with the introduction of feature policies and the 'allow'
    attribute years ago).

    LGTM1


    On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 9:12 AM Arthur Sonzogni
    <arthursonzo...@google.com> wrote:

        On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:50 PM Rick Byers
        <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

            Discussed in the API owners meeting yesterday. It sounds
            like work is ongoing to fully resolve issue #5
            <https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> including
            a good discussion at WebAppSec WG yesterday (summary in
            the Mozilla standards position issue
            <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628>).

        issue #5
        <https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> has been
        implemented. Anonymous iframe is now renamed: iframe
        credentialless. The implementation is ready to ship for M110.
        After the webappsec meeting with Dan Veditz. I asked on this
        Mozilla standard position thread
        
<https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628#issuecomment-1318940625>
        how we might reach agreement or what action to take instead. I
        don't believe we came to anything close to that. So far, I
        haven't had any luck getting additional responses.

            Arthur, let us know when you think decisions are captured
            sufficiently for API owners to re-evaluate.


        I'm not sure how to progress beyond that. So I think the API
        owner can now re-evaluate.

        Arthur @arthursonzogni


        On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:50 PM Rick Byers
        <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

            Discussed in the API owners meeting yesterday. It sounds
            like work is ongoing to fully resolve issue #5
            <https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> including
            a good discussion at WebAppSec WG yesterday (summary in
            the Mozilla standards position issue
            <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628>).
            Arthur, let us know when you think decisions are captured
            sufficiently for API owners to re-evaluate.

            Thanks,
               Rick

            On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:22 AM Zheng Wei
            <zhen...@google.com> wrote:

                Google Display Ads (GPT specifically) has tried the OT
                and is satisfied with the feature's behavior. Looking
                forward to it!

                On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-5
                Smaug wrote:

                    On 11/10/22 10:33, 'Arthur Sonzogni' via blink-dev
                    wrote:
                    > Hi blink-dev,
                    >
                    > *
                    > *
                    >
                    > We decided to address issue #5
                    <https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5>:
                    “rename anonymous iframe into iframe
                    credentialless”. We will
                    > rename <iframe anonymous>to <iframe
                    credentialless>.
                    >
                    > For this adjustment to take place, the new plan
                    is to ship in M110 instead of M109. We do not
                    think the origin trial will need to be extended,
                    since
                    > partners have been or will be able to test up to
                    M108. Therefore, there will be a gap between the
                    original trial and launch version.
                    >
                    > However, renaming from anonymous to
                    credentialless will not answer Mozilla's core
                    argument. They believe that the feature would be
                    best controlled via
                    > multiple new sandbox flags.

                    I don't think anyone from Mozilla has said that.
                    What I have said is that the current way to
                    control how iframes work is getting very
                    complicated and
                    the new attribute adds yet another mechanism. And
                    if most of the users will use both sandbox and
                    credentialless, understanding how those work together
                    can be rather confusing. Also, credentialless
                    isn't exposing the primitives itself, but some
                    unique set of features. I'd rather see primitives
                    to be
                    exposed and other features built on top of them.


                    -Olli


                    We think it is much less ergonomic and makes the
                    feature harder to explain to developers. The
                    integration with sandbox
                    > flags has challenging open questions around edge
                    cases, as listed in this document
                    >
                    
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/blob/main/mozilla-sandbox-proposal.md>.

                    >
                    > *
                    > *
                    >
                    > Considering this, we think the current solution
                    is a better one. We have feedback from partners
                    that it solves their needs. Considering that we have
                    > no clear feedback Mozilla would be interested in
                    implementing anonymous iframes even if they were
                    spelled as sandbox flags, we believe we should ship
                    > with what we have implemented.
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