LGTM3
On 11/30/22 7:19 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
LGTM2
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:17 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
Thanks for driving the naming issue to resolution Arthur. Given
the lack of engagement on the mozilla standards position issue, I
don't see anything else concrete that should block shipping. I
also think we could make an investment in negative sandbox flags
independently if there were consensus that it was the right thing
to do, but that's also a very long running debate (eg. we went
over it with the introduction of feature policies and the 'allow'
attribute years ago).
LGTM1
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 9:12 AM Arthur Sonzogni
<arthursonzo...@google.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:50 PM Rick Byers
<rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
Discussed in the API owners meeting yesterday. It sounds
like work is ongoing to fully resolve issue #5
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> including
a good discussion at WebAppSec WG yesterday (summary in
the Mozilla standards position issue
<https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628>).
issue #5
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> has been
implemented. Anonymous iframe is now renamed: iframe
credentialless. The implementation is ready to ship for M110.
After the webappsec meeting with Dan Veditz. I asked on this
Mozilla standard position thread
<https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628#issuecomment-1318940625>
how we might reach agreement or what action to take instead. I
don't believe we came to anything close to that. So far, I
haven't had any luck getting additional responses.
Arthur, let us know when you think decisions are captured
sufficiently for API owners to re-evaluate.
I'm not sure how to progress beyond that. So I think the API
owner can now re-evaluate.
Arthur @arthursonzogni
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:50 PM Rick Byers
<rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
Discussed in the API owners meeting yesterday. It sounds
like work is ongoing to fully resolve issue #5
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5> including
a good discussion at WebAppSec WG yesterday (summary in
the Mozilla standards position issue
<https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/628>).
Arthur, let us know when you think decisions are captured
sufficiently for API owners to re-evaluate.
Thanks,
Rick
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:22 AM Zheng Wei
<zhen...@google.com> wrote:
Google Display Ads (GPT specifically) has tried the OT
and is satisfied with the feature's behavior. Looking
forward to it!
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-5
Smaug wrote:
On 11/10/22 10:33, 'Arthur Sonzogni' via blink-dev
wrote:
> Hi blink-dev,
>
> *
> *
>
> We decided to address issue #5
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/issues/5>:
“rename anonymous iframe into iframe
credentialless”. We will
> rename <iframe anonymous>to <iframe
credentialless>.
>
> For this adjustment to take place, the new plan
is to ship in M110 instead of M109. We do not
think the origin trial will need to be extended,
since
> partners have been or will be able to test up to
M108. Therefore, there will be a gap between the
original trial and launch version.
>
> However, renaming from anonymous to
credentialless will not answer Mozilla's core
argument. They believe that the feature would be
best controlled via
> multiple new sandbox flags.
I don't think anyone from Mozilla has said that.
What I have said is that the current way to
control how iframes work is getting very
complicated and
the new attribute adds yet another mechanism. And
if most of the users will use both sandbox and
credentialless, understanding how those work together
can be rather confusing. Also, credentialless
isn't exposing the primitives itself, but some
unique set of features. I'd rather see primitives
to be
exposed and other features built on top of them.
-Olli
We think it is much less ergonomic and makes the
feature harder to explain to developers. The
integration with sandbox
> flags has challenging open questions around edge
cases, as listed in this document
>
<https://github.com/WICG/anonymous-iframe/blob/main/mozilla-sandbox-proposal.md>.
>
> *
> *
>
> Considering this, we think the current solution
is a better one. We have feedback from partners
that it solves their needs. Considering that we have
> no clear feedback Mozilla would be interested in
implementing anonymous iframes even if they were
spelled as sandbox flags, we believe we should ship
> with what we have implemented.
>
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