Hi Lorand, SMIL was not deprecated and there are no plans to do so. It's still a supported feature in Chromium.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:02 AM Lorand Zudor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi There, > > Does anyone happen to know what's the status on this one..? Is it more > like an abandoned thread...? > > Best, > - Lorand. > > On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:29:29 PM UTC+3 Mahdi Hosseinzadeh wrote: > >> One use case is how to replace the SMIL animations with CSS animations in >> markdown files? >> For example, GitHub *README.md* files or Stack Overflow post body. >> >> See this stackoverflow post >> <https://stackoverflow.com/a/69523392/8583692>. >> >> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:36:46 PM UTC+3:30 Andrea wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> i think that after some years it would useful to do new considerations: >>> >>> - SMIL is now supported in all major browsers: [1] >>> - the Usage continues to increase and it's now > 1 % [2] >>> - Last update of the polyfill is from 5/6 years ago [3] >>> - Updates about W3C SVG Animations Level 2 [4] >>> >>> I read several websites that point towards this discussion about the ( >>> future? ) deprecation of SMIL. >>> So think it would be useful an updated referenced info about the support >>> of SMIL for the SVG animations. >>> Could you please write an update about the SMIL support? >>> >>> I personally think that now SMIL is a valid open standard for the SVG >>> animations so for who builds projects with it, it's very important to have >>> no worries about a possible future deprecation. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Andrea Monzini >>> >>> [1] https://caniuse.com/svg-smil >>> [2] https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/501 >>> [3] https://github.com/ericwilligers/svg-animation >>> [4] https://svgwg.org/specs/animations/ >>> >>> >>> Il giorno mercoledì 17 agosto 2016 alle 19:52:10 UTC+2 Philip Rogers ha >>> scritto: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> In the 15 months since we announced our intention to deprecate and >>>> eventually remove SMIL, we’ve heard a variety of opinions from members of >>>> the community. We value all of your feedback, and it's clear that there are >>>> use cases serviced by SMIL that just don’t have high-fidelity replacements >>>> yet. As a result, we’ve decided to suspend our intent to deprecate and take >>>> smaller steps toward other options. >>>> >>>> We firmly believe that SMIL is not in the best long-term interests of >>>> the open web platform for several reasons: >>>> >>>> - There is no clear path towards broad cross-browser support. >>>> - The vendors which support SMIL have implementations that continue >>>> to vary widely, even after more than a decade of support. >>>> - There are high-quality cross-platform replacement features on the >>>> horizon. >>>> >>>> However, your feedback has made it clear that removing SMIL today would >>>> be taking away a feature that our community relies on. For example, the >>>> most common use case of SMIL is to animate SVG content inside image tags. >>>> While in theory CSS animations can animate this content, there are still >>>> missing features and bugs on all platforms that make SMIL a better option >>>> for now. For example, motion-path, path morphing, and the subset of SVG >>>> properties for which animation is supported all vary between platforms and >>>> browsers. >>>> >>>> Given these gaps in support, we'll instead proceed over the next few >>>> months by: >>>> >>>> - Proposing removal of pieces of SMIL that don’t enjoy widespread >>>> use. >>>> - Improving our own CSS animations implementation. >>>> - Filing bugs with browser vendors to help solidify their CSS >>>> animations implementations. >>>> - Continuing to support and promote modern alternatives like >>>> motion-path and SVG 2. >>>> >>>> Additionally, before we pursue deprecation of SMIL further, we'll make >>>> sure there's are automatic polyfill- and server-based solutions for any >>>> content that relies on it. >>>> >>>> It’s the Chromium community that make this an awesome project to work >>>> on. Thanks to everyone for your feedback and we look forward to hearing >>>> from you into the future! >>>> 😀😀 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been using SVG and SMIL recently and was planning to keep on >>>>> using it from now on. What sold me on it was the ability of using >>>>> Flash2SVG >>>>> to create animations in Flash (proprietary) using a timeline, and export >>>>> them to SVG. Visual authoring tools to create animations in CSS aren't >>>>> great, and the time it takes to create them by hand is prohibitive. The >>>>> added bonus of using SVG/SMIL is that the animation will fallback to a >>>>> static frame for browsers that do not support it - IE, Edge. Yes, there is >>>>> the need, as with CSS animations, to provide fallbacks to browsers that do >>>>> not support SVG (IE9 and below, Android 2) but I feel that depending on >>>>> the >>>>> project's target this might not even be a consideration. >>>>> >>>>> SVG and SMIL are neat self contained files that can just be dropped on >>>>> the page. They do require external JavaScript for animation but so do (or >>>>> might) animations made with CSS. They are a realistic alternative to GIFs >>>>> and as far as I'm aware they're the only sane option for having animations >>>>> with morphing paths. >>>>> >>>>> In the absence of good authoring tools to create semi-complex CSS >>>>> animations most designers/developers won't do it. There is no time or >>>>> budget to be spent on a project - a regular project for a client with a >>>>> small business - creating animations by hand. This has to be well resolved >>>>> before deprecating SMIL. >>>>> >>>>> Please don't remove the support, at least until there are solid, well >>>>> established alternatives. It seems we're moving backwards, not forward. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 30 April 2015 09:09:31 UTC+12, Philip Rogers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> *Primary eng emails* >>>>>> [email protected], [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> *Summary* >>>>>> We intend to deprecate SMIL animations in favor of CSS animations and >>>>>> Web animations. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Motivation* >>>>>> SMIL (pronounced “smile”) is a declarative animation system that >>>>>> pioneered animations on the web and inspired both CSS animations and Web >>>>>> animations. SMIL was never implemented in all major browsers which >>>>>> limited >>>>>> its use and spec development slowed after the last spec update in 2008. >>>>>> We >>>>>> would like to deprecate our SVG-specific SMIL implementation and >>>>>> double-down on support and tooling of integrated HTML & SVG animation >>>>>> models: CSS animations and Web animations. >>>>>> >>>>>> For content authors, browsers are actively improving the SVG >>>>>> animation experience without SMIL. Microsoft just announced CSS animation >>>>>> support for SVG[1] which means authors can, for the first time, create an >>>>>> animated SVG image that works in all major browsers. Both Chromium[2] and >>>>>> Firefox[3] are actively developing CSS animation and Web animation >>>>>> tooling >>>>>> which will work for SVG content too. Eric Willigers has also created a >>>>>> SMIL >>>>>> polyfill implemented entirely on the Web Animations API[5]. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of implementation, SMIL adds significant complexity to >>>>>> Blink. In the past year we had two large efforts to rewrite the tear-off >>>>>> implementation[4] (this supports ‘live’ animated values) as well as a >>>>>> difficult integration with Oilpan. Deprecating SMIL will help us focus on >>>>>> more general animation issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Compatibility Risk* >>>>>> Medium-Low: Internet Explorer does not support SMIL which limited its >>>>>> use for critical functionality. A concern is existing SMIL communities >>>>>> and >>>>>> content authors: we will use developer outreach to minimize risks here. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Alternative implementation suggestion for web developers* >>>>>> There are three migration strategies: >>>>>> 1) CSS animations. >>>>>> 2) Web animations. >>>>>> 3) Javascript polyfills such as Eric’s SMIL polyfill based on Web >>>>>> animations or fakesmile. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Usage information from UseCounter* >>>>>> Usage is low but stable at 0.0403% of pageviews[6]. The top SMIL user >>>>>> is currently ign.com which only uses SMIL for a minor effect. Usage >>>>>> of SMIL inside images (i.e., <img src=”...svg”>) where javascript >>>>>> polyfills >>>>>> will not work is lower at 0.006% of pageviews. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Entry on chromestatus.com <http://chromestatus.com>, crbug.com >>>>>> <http://crbug.com>, or MDN* >>>>>> http://crbug.com/482689 >>>>>> >>>>>> *Requesting approval to remove too?* >>>>>> No, this is only an intent to deprecate and we plan to show a >>>>>> deprecation warning in the console. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://status.modern.ie/csstransitionsanimationsforsvgelements >>>>>> [2] https://twitter.com/ChromeDevTools/status/575327634319540224 >>>>>> [3] >>>>>> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/01/web-animation-tools-network-security-insights-font-inspector-improvements-and-more-firefox-developer-tools-episode-37/ >>>>>> [4] >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bg7CUyUszqdwmENY3JX6_PoQD6uHRCNcRPJMlC4qlkw/view >>>>>> [5] https://github.com/ericwilligers/svg-animation >>>>>> [6] >>>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/501 >>>>>> >>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c79d315e-a293-474c-9ee1-87372c4c06a4n%40chromium.org > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c79d315e-a293-474c-9ee1-87372c4c06a4n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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