LGTM to experiment in canary/dev. For clarity, how long do you plan to experiment?

(I don't think you need an LGTM in this case, https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#origin-trials mentions needing an LGTM to experiment on beta or stable - but thanks for sending the intent!).

On 3/20/23 10:16 AM, Jiacheng Guo wrote:
The spec says:
User agents may copy entries from one |Document <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/dom.html#document>| object's list of available images <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/images.html#list-of-available-images> to another at any time I believe the change is in line with the spec. It makes this behavior more frequent. The spec does not define behavior for other resources for now. The other involved resource types are stylesheet, fonts and scripts. It would be desirable to add a description about MemoryCache for these resources in the spec and allow cross-document reusing. For now I believe it is acceptable to launch the experiment in dev and canary.

We plan to launch the experiment in dev and canary in April. There are concerns about the memory footprint increase introduced by the change so we decide to hold the experiment in beta or stable. The experiment will provide data for the tradeoff between memory consumption and load speed. If the experiments in dev and canary show a positive impact on page loading metrics, we plan to refine the resource saving strategy and launch with the new implementation.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:49 PM Mike Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

    What are the desired timelines for the experiments?

    The design doc mentions only testing in dev and canary - do you
    plan to eventually experiment in beta or stable?

    On 3/17/23 2:08 PM, 'Jiacheng Guo' via blink-dev wrote:


            Contact emails

    [email protected]


            Explainer

    
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcdXkoFBbdxmp_EYIrrOJvEgYd0hGBAr4Nbno7KWnIs/edit?usp=sharing


            Specification

    The feature is not web-spec related.


            Design docs


    
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcdXkoFBbdxmp_EYIrrOJvEgYd0hGBAr4Nbno7KWnIs/edit?usp=sharing


            Summary

    To measure the impact of garbage collection on Blink memory cache
    and potential performance boost, we plan to keep strong
    references to loaded resources in the Blink memory cache. The
    change will serve as an estimation only project to collect data
    about the maximal cache hit rate with all resources available.



            Blink component

    Blink>Loader
    
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ELoader>


            TAG review


    TAG review is not required since the experiment changes the
    internal behavior of renderer and is transparent to the websites
    and web developers.


            Risks



            Interoperability and Compatibility


    Resource reference lifetime does not affect the behavior of the
    browser. We do not expect there to be interoperability or
    compatibility issues.

    /Gecko/: No signal

    /WebKit/: No signal

    /Web developers/: No signals

    /Other signals/:


            WebView application risks

    The change does not modify the behavior of web APIs


            Goals for experimentation

    The four configurations will be launched on dev/canary. The
    combinations are: * The control group. No strong reference to
    resources. * Save strong references for all resources of all
    types for all the pages. * Save strong references for only
    script, fonts and stylesheets for all pages. * Save strong
    references for all resources for only one page. * Save strong
    references for only script, fonts and stylesheets for only one
    page. We will evaluate the following metrics under different
    configurations * Core web browsing metric (FCP/LCP etc) * Cache
    hit rate: Blink.MemoryCache.RevalidationPolicy * Memory footprint
    * Crash Rate



            Reason this experiment is being extended



            Ongoing technical constraints



            Debuggability



            Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
            (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android
            WebView)?

    Yes


            Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
            
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?

    No, resource reference lifetime in blink is invisible to the
    websites.


            Flag name

    MemoryCacheStrongReference for the overall configuration.
    MemoryCacheStrongReferenceSingleUnload and
    MemoryCacheStrongReferenceFilterImages for sub configurations


            Requires code in //chrome?

    False


            Tracking bug

    https://crbug.com/1409349


            Estimated milestones

    The feature is for experiment only. We do not expect to launch it
    to stable as it is. If the experiment provides positive results,
    we will move on to further refine the resource lifetime
    management strategy in Blink.


            Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

    https://chromestatus.com/feature/5196823129489408

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