Thanks Yoav!

One minor note to the group that we successfully renamed the repository and
so the explainer and spec can now be found at
https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessFor and
https://privacycg.github.io/requestStorageAccessFor/, respectively.
(apologies to those who hit a 404 on the spec link)

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:39 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM1
>
> I appreciate the reliance on this API on FPS as an internal concept
> (equivalent to the reliance of other browsers on entities.json) to
> significantly reduce its user friction as well as the risk that other
> vendors are concerned with (e.g. reputation concerns).
>
> I think we've made significant strides towards eventual interoperability
> with this, without compromising on the use cases we care about, and without
> unnecessarily burdening users with privacy labour.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:35 PM Johann Hofmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Contact emails
>>
>> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>> Explainer
>>
>> https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin
>>
>> (note that we recently updated the name to remove “origin”, but not yet
>> the repository name)
>>
>> Specification
>>
>> https://privacycg.github.io/requestStorageAccessForOrigin
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> An extension to the Storage Access API that allows a top-level site to
>> request access to unpartitioned ("first-party") cookies on behalf of
>> embedded sites. Browsers will have discretion to grant or deny access, with
>> mechanisms like First-Party Set membership as a potential signal. This
>> allows for use of the Storage Access API by top-level sites.
>>
>> For now, we intend to ship requestStorageAccessFor without user-facing
>> prompts, instead relying on information from First-Party Sets to determine
>> which sites should be granted storage access.
>>
>> Blink component
>>
>> Blink>StorageAccessAPI
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EStorageAccessAPI>
>>
>> TAG review
>>
>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/808
>>
>> TAG review status
>>
>> Pending
>>
>> Risks
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> Gecko: No signal (
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/736)
>>
>> WebKit: No signal (
>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/125)
>>
>> This has been discussed with other browser vendors outside of the
>> standards-positions repositories. These browsers ship this functionality as
>> a version that is only accessible to internal code (as an
>> anti-cross-site-cookie-breakage measure), but haven’t exposed it to
>> developers, primarily out of prompt relevance concerns. There have been
>> mixed reactions to our proposal, with the primary feedback being on 
>> reputation
>> concerns with potential prompts
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/29>,
>> and a desire to maintain the security benefits from cross-site cookie
>> blocking to an even larger extent
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/30>.
>> We intend to work on these concerns in collaboration with other browsers
>> (if possible).
>>
>> Edge: No public signal. However, we’ve discussed this with Edge and they
>> are supportive of this additional API surface and will work on enabling it
>> (i.e. providing the prompts or FPS mechanisms to gate it) on Edge as well.
>>
>> Web developers:
>>
>> Positive. There has been developer
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/107#issuecomment-1330491548>
>> feedback <https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/53> on SAA
>> asking for this or similar functionality, as well as communication with
>> partners that are trying out the API to utilize FPS.
>>
>> Ergonomics
>>
>> Like requestStorageAccess, this API requires additional work from the
>> developer compared to the old state of "passive" cross-site cookie access.
>> This is an inherent, intentional property of the design.
>>
>> For security reasons, this feature requires developers to use either CORS
>> headers (for non-iframe subresources) or requestStorageAccess in iframes to
>> be able to access cross-site cookies after a requestStorageAccessFor call.
>>
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> No
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>
>> No. This will be supported on Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, and
>> Android, but will not initially be supported on Android WebView.
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?
>>
>> Yes, https://wpt.fyi/results/top-level-storage-access-api. Note that
>> while tests are passing locally in Chrome, they’re not yet showing up on
>> wpt.fyi because the feature wasn’t included in the experimental web
>> platform features flag.
>>
>> Flag name
>>
>> StorageAccessAPIForOriginExtension
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>
>> True, as we’re adding a new permission and integrating with FPS. As
>> mentioned in the FPS I2S, Chromium-based browsers should be able to consume
>> the list through component updater.
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>>
>> Shipping in M113.
>>
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Some details of this API are still being discussed in the Privacy CG
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues> and
>> there may be backwards-incompatible changes in the future. As mentioned
>> above, the primary feedback has been on reputation concerns with
>> potential prompts
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/29>,
>> and a desire to maintain the security benefits from cross-site cookie
>> blocking to an even larger extent
>> <https://github.com/privacycg/requestStorageAccessForOrigin/issues/30>.
>>
>> We are confident in shipping the API in its current state to better
>> understand and iterate on real-world developer needs, and accept the
>> responsibility of supporting potential future breaking API changes. Since
>> use of the API in Chrome is currently restricted to First-Party Sets, we
>> think it allows us to leverage targeted developer outreach to minimize
>> compatibility impact.
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5122534152863744
>>
>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>
>> Intent to prototype:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGg35awh2_aqmFtWgOdo40vYVnWf%2BkEv3o7jxZ8DLbWq0eC3eQ%40mail.gmail.com
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