Here is the UseCounter: https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4454 It looks like it is at 0.0103% What do yall think?
> Personally I would be happy to approve if we had a UseCounter with less than our small but non-trivial risk threshold of 0.001% of page loads Looks like its higher than this threshold :( On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:53 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > Friendly ping! :) > > On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 7:13:25 PM UTC+1 Joey Arhar wrote: > >> Yes, that matches my understanding. I can see on omahaproxy that the >> usecounter was merged in 112 and I can see on chromiumdash that 112 goes to >> stable on april 4 >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:11 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Looked at this following the API owners meeting and given that the >>> usecounters >>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560> landed >>> in 112, I think we can expect stable data early April but not before. >>> >>> Joey - does that match your understanding? >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:04 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:07 PM Simon Pieters <zcor...@mozilla.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for working on this, Joey. Removing quirks where possible is >>>>> always nice! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:18 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good, I'm adding a UseCounter here: >>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Joey, >>>>>>> Thanks for working to remove a quirk! Although we haven't written it >>>>>>> into our compat principles <http://bit.ly/blink-compat>, I'm >>>>>>> personally willing to accept greater compat risk for removing quirks as >>>>>>> they're by-definition legacy behavior of the web which create an ongoing >>>>>>> complexity burden for the platform which we should seek to eventually >>>>>>> eliminate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reading through the history >>>>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2988#issuecomment-1271763702> >>>>>>> of WebKit not being able to make this change due to severe breakage in >>>>>>> bugzilla and seeing that we still load 12% of pages in quirks mode >>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2034>, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> In https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2020/markup#conclusion the >>>>> number was 3.97% of *pages* in httparchive are in quirks mode, and if I >>>>> remember correctly, this has further declined slightly in 2021 and 2022. >>>>> I'm not sure why there's a 3x discrepancy between the use counter page >>>>> view >>>>> number and the httparchive pages number, though. Does an about:blank >>>>> iframe >>>>> trigger the use counter? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Wow, that is surprising to me! Typically the biggest discrepancy comes >>>> from the fact that usage is head-heavy with 1/3rd of page loads being >>>> from the top 100 origins >>>> <https://twitter.com/RickByers/status/1195342331588706306>, and I >>>> would absolutely expect the head to not be using quirks mode. Perhaps >>>> there's one or two popular sites using quirks mode? No, only http/https >>>> schemes contribute to UseCounters IIRC so about:blank shouldn't be the >>>> problem. Or maybe there's some discrepancy in how we're identifying quirky >>>> pages. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Pieters >>>>> https://www.mozilla.com/ >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAFUtAY8ZizCwMOX_r8dKbJ44xNkih7J4Tx7z31DNnPOrmLRH%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAFUtAY8ZizCwMOX_r8dKbJ44xNkih7J4Tx7z31DNnPOrmLRH%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAK6btwJmmn-cHNmFmktDB7gLGS4P%2BJd1sNK0ua0%3Dh%3DC3cLrgvQ%40mail.gmail.com.