Here is the UseCounter:
https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4454
It looks like it is at 0.0103%
What do yall think?

> Personally I would be happy to approve if we had a UseCounter with less
than our small but non-trivial risk threshold of 0.001% of page loads

Looks like its higher than this threshold :(

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:53 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Friendly ping! :)
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 7:13:25 PM UTC+1 Joey Arhar wrote:
>
>> Yes, that matches my understanding. I can see on omahaproxy that the
>> usecounter was merged in 112 and I can see on chromiumdash that 112 goes to
>> stable on april 4
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:11 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looked at this following the API owners meeting and given that the
>>> usecounters
>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560> landed
>>> in 112, I think we can expect stable data early April but not before.
>>>
>>> Joey - does that match your understanding?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:04 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:07 PM Simon Pieters <zcor...@mozilla.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for working on this, Joey. Removing quirks where possible is
>>>>> always nice!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:18 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds good, I'm adding a UseCounter here:
>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4193560
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Joey,
>>>>>>> Thanks for working to remove a quirk! Although we haven't written it
>>>>>>> into our compat principles <http://bit.ly/blink-compat>, I'm
>>>>>>> personally willing to accept greater compat risk for removing quirks as
>>>>>>> they're by-definition legacy behavior of the web which create an ongoing
>>>>>>> complexity burden for the platform which we should seek to eventually
>>>>>>> eliminate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading through the history
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2988#issuecomment-1271763702>
>>>>>>> of WebKit not being able to make this change due to severe breakage in
>>>>>>> bugzilla and seeing that we still load 12% of pages in quirks mode
>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2034>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> In https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2020/markup#conclusion the
>>>>> number was 3.97% of *pages* in httparchive are in quirks mode, and if I
>>>>> remember correctly, this has further declined slightly in 2021 and 2022.
>>>>> I'm not sure why there's a 3x discrepancy between the use counter page 
>>>>> view
>>>>> number and the httparchive pages number, though. Does an about:blank 
>>>>> iframe
>>>>> trigger the use counter?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that is surprising to me! Typically the biggest discrepancy comes
>>>> from the fact that usage is head-heavy with 1/3rd of page loads being
>>>> from the top 100 origins
>>>> <https://twitter.com/RickByers/status/1195342331588706306>, and I
>>>> would absolutely expect the head to not be using quirks mode. Perhaps
>>>> there's one or two popular sites using quirks mode? No, only http/https
>>>> schemes contribute to UseCounters IIRC so about:blank shouldn't be the
>>>> problem.  Or maybe there's some discrepancy in how we're identifying quirky
>>>> pages.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Simon Pieters
>>>>> https://www.mozilla.com/
>>>>>
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