Hey all,

I would like to clarify that the current deprecation trial ends on M116 so 
that I would like to extend it to M119.

best,
Yifan

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 3:38:15 PM UTC+2 Yifan Luo wrote:

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>
> Explainer
> https://github.com/WICG/private-network-access/blob/master/explainer.md
>
> Specificationhttps://wicg.github.io/private-network-access
>
> Design docs
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x1a1fQLOrcWogK3tpFBgQZQ5ZjcONTvD0IqqXkgrg5I/edit#heading=h.7nki9mck5t64
>
> Summary
>
> Requires that private network requests for subresources from public 
> websites may only be initiated from a secure context. Examples include 
> internet to intranet requests and internet to loopback requests. This is a 
> first step towards fully implementing Private Network Access: 
> https://wicg.github.io/private-network-access/
>
>
> Blink componentBlink>SecurityFeature>CORS>PrivateNetworkAccess 
> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ESecurityFeature%3ECORS%3EPrivateNetworkAccess>
>
> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/572
>
> TAG review statusIssues addressed
>
> Link to origin trial feedback summary
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z5ZdCslNCnSVR7TNlUTHjSvunMFmT_9G9NOx8-O78-I/edit?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-DITlG8tDuFDWHiBUHnlSoQ
>
> Risks
>
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
> No interoperability risks. Compatibility risk is small but non-negligible. 
> UseCounters show ~0.1% of page visit making use of this feature. Direct 
> outreach to the largest users per UKM data revealed no objections to this 
> launch. Rolling this deprecation out to beta per the previous I2S resulted 
> in more feedback about the compatibility risk and the need for a time 
> extension. See the following doc for an extensive discussion: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bpis0QwaA9ZrRFmpPW6LiaPmdwT0UhhUMNsEnU0zfLk/edit
>
>
> *Gecko*: Positive (
> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/143) Tentatively 
> positive, but no formal position yet.
>
> *WebKit*: Positive (
> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-May/031837.html)
>
> *Web developers*: Mixed signals (
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bpis0QwaA9ZrRFmpPW6LiaPmdwT0UhhUMNsEnU0zfLk/edit)
>  
> In our recent survey, most of websites are able to migrate if our new 
> permission prompt can be landed as a way for them to relax mixed content 
> checks. 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z5ZdCslNCnSVR7TNlUTHjSvunMFmT_9G9NOx8-O78-I/edit?resourcekey=0-DITlG8tDuFDWHiBUHnlSoQ#gid=309953809
>  ------------ 
> Some websites, broadly falling in the category of controller webapps for 
> IoT devices, find this change incompatible with their use cases. While many 
> use cases can be solved with specific workarounds, some still require 
> further engagement.
>
> *Other signals*:
>
> Activation
>
> Developers of non-secure sites that rely upon local servers will need to 
> upgrade to HTTPS. This might cause some complications, as mixed-content 
> checks will begin to apply. Chrome carves out HTTP access to loopback (as 
> perhttps://w3c.github.io/webappsec-secure-contexts/#localhost), which is 
> a release valve for folks who don't want to go through the effort of 
> securely-distributing certs for local servers. The initial launch in M92 
> was delayed due to compatibility risks surfaced during the rollout to beta. 
> See this doc for a lot more details: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bpis0QwaA9ZrRFmpPW6LiaPmdwT0UhhUMNsEnU0zfLk/edit
>
>
> Security
>
> This change should be security-positive.
>
>
> WebView application risks
>
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> When a request is made that violates this restriction and the feature is 
> not enabled, three things happen: 1. A warning message is logged to the 
> DevTools console. 2. A depreciation report is filed against the initiator 
> website's Reporting API, if so configured. 3. An issue surfaced in the 
> DevTools Issues panel. Likewise, when the feature is enabled and a request 
> is blocked, the same happens except that the message logged to the DevTools 
> console is an error and its text is slightly different. The devtools 
> network panel shows information about the source and remote address spaces 
> at play.
>
>
> *Experiment Extension Reason:*We planned a prototyped permission prompt 
> to relax mixed-content for requests from HTTPS public websites to HTTP 
> local devices. However, we've missed the M116 branch point and now have a 
> prototype on M117 for users to play around. See demo: 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pnyQfIsXdtJnZoCBVSt4xim0yXjZ0Aqc/view?usp=sharing
> We request for an extension for this deprecation trial to let users be 
> able to try the new permission prototype in M117 and the OT possibly start 
> from M117/M118.
> ------
> We have collected 20+ developers' feedback since the last milestone. 85.7% 
> developers said that they are still migrating to HTTPS, 50% said they need 
> more time and 50% said they are not able to migrate local devices for 
> various reasons and need future help.
>
> In the meanwhile, we are also collecting developers' feedback on our 
> future plan for websites that cannot migrate their private devices to HTTPS 
> but would like to migrate their public websites. 11.1% websites answered 
> probably yes to our new feature and 72.2% responded might or might not. The 
> major considers are they also need the allowance on frames/iframes (Q8 
> 64.7%), want to use IP address as ids in permission (Q12 82.3%), too many 
> permission prompt might be a spam (2 answers) and need to wait for other 
> browsers supporting Private Network Access. In this case, we are also 
> actively changing our further plan and collaborating with other browsers at 
> the same time.
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
> ?Yes
>
> Flag nameBlockInsecurePrivateNetworkRequests
>
> Requires code in //chrome?False
>
> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/986744
>
> Launch bughttps://crbug.com/1129801
>
> Estimated milestones
> OriginTrial desktop last 119
> OriginTrial desktop first 94
> DevTrial on desktop 86
> OriginTrial Android last 119
> OriginTrial Android first 94
> DevTrial on Android 86
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5436853517811712
>
> Links to previous Intent discussionsReady for Trial: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/EeGg7TxW6U4/m/7ZvqAqHLAwAJ
> Intent to Experiment: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/vlDZXlPb00k/m/1421ACiuAAAJ
> Intent to Extend Experiment: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/JPD001kqeck
> Intent to Ship: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/JPD001kqeck
>
>
> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status 
> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
> -- 
> Yifan
>

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