Am Mi., 19. Juli 2023 um 14:25 Uhr schrieb Yoav Weiss <
[email protected]>:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:53 PM 'Eugene Zemtsov' via blink-dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Any new feedback or resolution on this one?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 5:53 AM Sangwhan Moon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> (resending from correct email)
>>>
>>> On 2023年07月07日 00時32分12秒 (+09:00), Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/5/23 8:57 PM, 'Eugene Zemtsov' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>
>>> Intent to Implement and Ship: Per-frame quantizer in VideoEncoder
>>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Explainer
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
> I think an explainer can be significantly helpful in helping us understand
> how developers will be using this feature and what use cases it'd cover.
> Could you write one or add an inline explanation outlining that?
>

Explaining that is tough without going into the details "what is
quantization for video codecs. See
  https://www.vcodex.com/h264avc-4x4-transform-and-quantization/
for a very detailed explanation for H264.

the tl;dr is that folks who encode video like tuning all kinds of knobs to
get the "best" result and qp is one of those.

>
>
>>
>>> Specification
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/webcodecs/#video-encoder-bitrate-mode
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> Adds "quantizer" VideoEncoderBitrateMode for VideoEncoder. This allows
>>> to specify a quantizer parameter for each frame for AV1, VP9, and AVC video
>>> codecs. The quantizer parameter is set via codec specific extensions for
>>> VideoEncoderEncodeOptions.
>>>
>>> Assuming I know very little about video codecs, what use cases does this
>>> enable for developers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>Media>WebCodecs
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMedia%3EWebCodecs>
>>>
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>> None.
>>>
>>> Previously WebCodecs API had TAG review as a whole:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/612
>>>
>>> This is a new addition since that review, but it's a trivial addition
>>> (IMHO) so a new review request isn't needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree, I don't see anything particularly contentious in the proposal
>>> that would warrant a full review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TAG review status
>>>
>>> Not applicable
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> Gecko: Neutral (
>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/837#issuecomment-1614666364)
>>> Paul Adenot (Mozilla) expressed that minor changes to WebCodecs spec don't
>>> need to go through the full "Request for Mozilla Position" process assuming
>>> they were approved by the Media Working Group.
>>>
>>> WebKit: Positive (https://www.w3.org/2023/03/07-mediawg-minutes.html#t02)
>>> The issue was discussed on 07 March 2023 by w3c Media working group. Jer
>>> Noble (Apple) was actively participating and provided input for spec
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Can we request a formal position from WebKit, at least to let them know
>>> we're intending to ship?
>>>
>>>
>>> Web developers: Positive (https://github.com/w3c/webcodecs/issues/56)
>>> People ask for this on GitHub
>>>
>>> Other signals:
>>>
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> Tracking bug
>>>
>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1424154
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>
>>> 117
>>>
>>> Shipping on Android
>>>
>>> 117
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5783986600673280
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Eugene Zemtsov.
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