> On the level of interest, there was no reaction on
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there other
communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?

I should have filed standards positions first. I have done so now:
- https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/263
- https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/901

> It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
before updating the spec

I intend to get positive signals from Gecko and WebKit first before
actually shipping this.
I already have an HTML spec PR open, so the spec could be updated at any
time.

There is a risk for web compatibility, although I was convinced that this
should just improve the consistency of the event timing.
If there is significant breakage, I will disable this change via finch and
revert the spec changes.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 4:12 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
> before updating the spec. On the level of interest, there was no reaction
> on https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there
> other communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:34 AM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>
>> Explainerhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>
>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9775
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> The toggle events for the popover attribute and the details element, as
>> well as the close event for dialog elements, currently post a task to the
>> DOM manipulation task source to fire these events asynchronously. This
>> means that the event could fire before or after the next render, which
>> could lead to flaky rendering for one frame. By using microtasks instead,
>> the event will always fire before the next render. This was suggested in
>> this HTML spec issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>DOM
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM>
>>
>> TAG reviewThis is a very small change so I'm not making a TAG review.
>>
>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> If websites are relying on the slower event timing somehow, then we could
>> run into problems.
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: Positive?
>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046#issuecomment-1724509340
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Yes
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>
>> Finch feature nameNone
>>
>> Non-finch justification
>>
>> I am not interested in any metrics changes for this feature, it should
>> just make the behavior more consistent for web developers. Should it prove
>> to have issues, I can disable it with a finch killswitch.
>>
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Adoption expectationIf we ship this without breaking websites, then I
>> think the other browsers will feel interested in implementing this as well.
>>
>> Adoption planThis change modifies several WPTs which the other browsers
>> are likely watching, which will help encourage them to implement this as
>> well.
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>>
>> No milestones specified
>>
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5123249231101952
>>
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>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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