>From a code owner and W3C participant's perspective, I'm very happy that 
we're finally aligning our attribute name with the spec + Firefox' 
implementation. Thank you Eldar!

(Ultimately we should deprecate and remove the old attribute name, but not 
until this has been shipped for a long time.)

On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 11:29:09 PM UTC+1 Mike Taylor wrote:

> Thanks! I had intended to reply that it's very simple to add a runtime 
> enabled feature to IDL, but it's been a busy day. :)
> On 2/13/24 3:57 PM, Eldar Rello wrote:
>
> >Can we add a flag? 
> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/flag_guarding_guidelines.md
>
> >(Or someone can explain why that's difficult and the risk is low here...).
>
> I made it as a runtime enabled feature now.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:50:18 PM UTC+2 Eldar Rello wrote:
>
>> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 4:53:50 PM UTC+2 mike...@chromium.org 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/12/24 6:36 AM, Eldar Rello wrote:
>>
>> Contact emails eldar...@gmail.com
>>
>> Explainer None
>>
>> Specification 
>> https://w3c.github.io/webrtc-extensions/#dom-rtcrtpreceiver-jitterbuffertarget
>>
>> Summary 
>>
>> JitterBufferTarget attribute allows applications to specify a target 
>> duration of time in milliseconds of media for the RTCRtpReceiver's jitter 
>> buffer to hold. This influences the amount of buffering done by the user 
>> agent, which in turn affects retransmissions and packet loss recovery. 
>> Altering the target value allows applications to control the tradeoff 
>> between playout delay and the risk of running out of audio or video frames 
>> due to network jitter.
>>
>>
>> Essentially it is a rename of already shipped playoutDelayHint attribute.
>>
>> Is this purely a rename, or are there changes to the semantics?
>>
>> Other than the name change, it throws RangeError when delay parameter is 
>> out of range. playoutDelayHint is throwing only if delay is negative. 
>> Another difference is that jitterBuffferTarget is in milliseconds unit 
>> while playoutDelayHint is using seconds.
>>
>> And do we have any sense how widely used playoutDelayHint is in the wild? 
>> There is some discussion of the bikeshedding in 
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2023Apr/0045.html, 
>> but no consideration of existing usage (at least as reflected in the 
>> minutes).
>>
>> I do not have visibility over usage, but playoutDelayHint remains 
>> supported to enable smooth adaption.
>>
>>
>> Blink component Blink>WebRTC 
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EWebRTC>
>>
>> TAG review None
>>
>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>
>> Opening an issue seems useful, but that seems like a heavy tax for a 
>> contributor (vs the spec editors...).
>>
>>
>> Risks 
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility 
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping
>>
>> Mind providing a link to a bug?
>>
>>  
>> Added
>>
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>
>> Can we request a permission please? 
>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions
>>
>>
>> Created ticket there.
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks 
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability 
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>
>> Which platforms will it be supported on, if not all of them?
>>
>>  
>> Fixed. Initially I was unsure, but it should be supported on all 
>> platforms where WebRTC is available. 
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ? Yes 
>>
>>
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webrtc-extensions/RTCRtpReceiver-jitterBufferTarget.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flags None
>>
>> Finch feature name None
>>
>> Can we add a flag? 
>> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/flag_guarding_guidelines.md
>>
>> (Or someone can explain why that's difficult and the risk is low here...).
>>
>> Personally I do not see any value for guarding as like already mentioned 
>> exactly same functionality is already exposed by legacy attribute 
>> playoutDelayHint. 
>>
>>
>> Non-finch justification None
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>
>> Estimated milestones Shipping on desktop 123 
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes 
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or 
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues 
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may 
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of 
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5930772496384000
>>
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