On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:08 PM Ben Howell <behow...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi Aaron,
>
>
>
> The plan has changed a bit since the original I2P. I got some feedback
> that the Export ID proposal was overly complicated for end users, and there
> should be a simpler feature that works towards enabling web components to
> be drop-in replacements for builtins. The new plan is to implement
> Reference Target (https://github.com/WICG/aom/pull/207), which is simpler
> and more scoped to solving cross-root ARIA.
>
>
>
> I’ve updated the chromestatus feature to refer to Reference Target
> instead: https://chromestatus.com/feature/5188237101891584. I’m going to
> update the Export ID explainer in the AOM repo once the new one is merged.
>
>
>
> That said, Reference Target relies on element reflection from the
> ARIAMixin in order to make a complete solution for cross-root ARIA, so it’s
> concerning that it has fallen into disrepair... Your link to your comment
> 25 is broken – could you send the link again and/or a link to the feature
> bug you’re referring to?
>

Fixed link: https://issues.chromium.org/issues/41469336#comment25

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> *From:* Aaron Leventhal <alevent...@google.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2024 3:12 PM
> *To:* blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org>
> *Cc:* Ben Howell <behow...@microsoft.com>; Alex Russell <
> alexruss...@microsoft.com>; Benjamin Beaudry <
> benjamin.beau...@microsoft.com>; chrishtr <chris...@google.com>; David
> Bolter <dbol...@google.com>; Mason Freed <mas...@google.com>;
> aboxh...@igalia.com
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Intent to Prototype: ExportID for cross
> ShadowRoot ARIA
>
>
>
> +aboxh...@igalia.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 6:05 PM Aaron Leventhal <alevent...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> Also wondering about ARIA element reflection (ariaDescribedByElements,
> ariaOwnsElements, etc.) ?
>
>
>
> We already have an implementation of ARIA element reflection in Blink, but
> it isn't shipping yet, and has likely fallen into disrepair (for more info
> about that, I just added comment 25 <http://comment%2025> in the original
> feature bug).
>
>
>
> I feel like in order to ship the new exciting technique, we should also
> ship the original technique.
>
> Interested in hearing everyone's thoughts.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 7:35:09 PM UTC-4 Ben Howell wrote:
>
> Contact emails
>
> sligh...@chromium.org, alexr...@microsoft.com, beho...@microsoft.com
>
> Explainer
>
> https://github.com/WICG/aom/blob/gh-pages/exportid-explainer.md
>
> Specification
>
> None
>
> Summary
>
> Exported IDs are a way to refer to elements inside a shadow tree from an
> ID reference attribute like `aria-labelledby` or `for`, while preserving
> shadow DOM encapsulation. There is a new attribute `exportid` to mark an
> element as having its ID exported from the shadow root, and a new syntax to
> refer to the element from outside the shadow root: `for="host::id(child)"`.
> There is also a new attribute `useids` to allow referring to elements
> outside of the shadow tree. More details are in the explainer. Together
> these features allow creating ARIA relationships across the shadow tree
> boundary.
>
>
>
> Blink component
>
> Blink>DOM>ShadowDOM
> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM%3EShadowDOM>
>
> Motivation
>
> The Shadow DOM presents a problem for accessibility: there is not a way to
> establish semantic relationships between elements on in different shadow
> trees (such as aria-labelledby). This limits the ability to design web
> components in a way that works with accessibility tools such as screen
> readers. Exported IDs solve this problem by giving a way to create semantic
> relationships between elements in a way that respects shadow DOM
> encapsulation. The specifics of the proposal are detailed in the linked
> explainer.
>
>
>
> Initial public proposal
>
> https://github.com/WICG/aom/pull/204
>
> TAG review
>
> None
>
> TAG review status
>
> Pending
>
> Risks
>
>
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
> None
>
>
>
> *Gecko*: No signal
>
> *WebKit*: No signal
>
> *Web developers*: No signals
>
> *Other signals*:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?*
>
> None
>
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> None
>
>
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
> ?
>
> No
>
> Flag name on chrome://flags
>
> None
>
> Finch feature name
>
> None
>
> Non-finch justification
>
> None
>
> Requires code in //chrome?
>
> False
>
> Estimated milestones
>
> No milestones specified
>
>
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5188237101891584
>
> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
>
>
>
>

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