LGTM2

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 6:19:50 AM UTC+1 Domenic Denicola wrote:

> LGTM1. I recall these methods getting lots of good design review and 
> discussion in the PR, from multiple parties. I'm excited to see them ship.
>
> Thanks Luke for spotting the trusted types interaction, and fixing it!
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 2:15:09 AM UTC+9 Joey Arhar wrote:
>
>> > Is this the relevant explainer (referenced from the PR below): 
>> https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/blob/main/explainer.md
>>
>> Yes, as far as I know.
>>
>> > This seems positive, right?  
>>
>> Whoops, meant to put positive. I updated the chromestatus.
>>
>> > Both of these look like "Shipped/Shipping", per 
>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals. That status is a little odd, because it 
>> doesn't look like they've actually made it to a stable release, but if I'm 
>> reading the bug trackers right they're both merged, so they're past "In 
>> Development".
>>
>> Ok, I'll change them to shipped/shipping.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM Luke <lwar...@igalia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to keep everyone up to date, you can disregard my remarks above 
>>> I've landed a patch which addresses the lack of trusted types protection, 
>>> thanks for the quick review Joey.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Luke
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:49:23 PM UTC Luke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> In it's current form Chromium's implementation of these functions 
>>>> bypasses trusted types protection.
>>>>
>>>> The below WPT tests cover this behaviour:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-ShadowRoot-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Element-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Document-parseHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>
>>>> This should be addressed before shipping, else it will be an unexpected 
>>>> security regression.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:23:01 PM UTC Vladimir Levin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:53 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-API-owner opinions inline:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:42 PM 'Vladimir Levin' via blink-dev <
>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just had some clarifying questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:13 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some additional notes:
>>>>>>>> - This API is tested in the declarative ShadowDOM tests in 
>>>>>>>> interop2024, and it is counting against us to not have it enabled by 
>>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>>> - The future sanitization options will be added as an optional 
>>>>>>>> second parameter to both methods, so there will not be any compat 
>>>>>>>> issues 
>>>>>>>> with shipping now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:11 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ExplainerNone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this the relevant explainer (referenced from the PR below): 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/blob/main/explainer.md
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/C/#unsafe-html-parsing-methods
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9538
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The setHTMLUnsafe and parseHTMLUnsafe methods allow Declarative 
>>>>>>>>> ShadowDOM to be used from javascript. In the future, they may also 
>>>>>>>>> get new 
>>>>>>>>> parameters for sanitization.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>HTML 
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHTML>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG reviewNone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There seems to be consensus within browser vendors that this is a 
>>>>>>> good idea, but I'm just wondering why you decided against filing TAG 
>>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMO, either Firefox or Safari folks should have filed a TAG review 
>>>>>> for this before they merged their patches. Now that they've merged, I 
>>>>>> think 
>>>>>> it falls into the "[already specified && already shipped]" exception 
>>>>>> category 
>>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/api-owners/process-exceptions/>,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> and it's probably too fixed to ask the TAG to spend time on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (also non-api-owner, but responding anyway): if that is in fact 
>>>>> shipping then I agree that this should be the exception here, thanks. 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal (
>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850675) 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9538#issuecomment-1728947778
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This seems positive, right?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261143)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to read this properly, but is this a positive 
>>>>>>> signal or "shipped/shipping" signal?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of these look like "Shipped/Shipping", per 
>>>>>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals. That status is a little odd, because 
>>>>>> it doesn't look like they've actually made it to a stable release, but 
>>>>>> if 
>>>>>> I'm reading the bug trackers right they're both merged, so they're past 
>>>>>> "In 
>>>>>> Development".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that's my thought here too. My understanding is that all of the 
>>>>> patches here are merged, but I just wanted to double check in case I'm 
>>>>> misunderstanding what those bugs are implying.
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This API will likely be used in tandem with Declarative ShadowDOM. 
>>>>>>>>> The default usage of this API will not make it hard for chrome to 
>>>>>>>>> maintain 
>>>>>>>>> good performance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Activation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It will not be challenging for developers to use this feature 
>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are no security risks. This API just does declarative 
>>>>>>>>> ShadowDOM. There is an "unsafe" in the name because there are future 
>>>>>>>>> plans 
>>>>>>>>> to add sanitization options. 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/issues/185 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/8627 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/8759
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, 
>>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This API does not need any special DevTools features. You can call 
>>>>>>>>> the method from the console panel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms 
>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>> ?Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsHTMLUnsafeMethods
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finch feature nameHTMLUnsafeMethods
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>> DevTrial on desktop 120
>>>>>>>>> DevTrial on Android 120
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web 
>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to 
>>>>>>>>> known 
>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose 
>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to 
>>>>>>>>> naming 
>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6560361081995264
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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