As I understand it, the font features of Source Han and Noto CJK are almost 
the same. So should we fallback to Source Han when Noto CJK doesn't exist?

在2024年6月12日星期三 UTC+8 12:10:08<ko...@chromium.org> 写道:

> Dominik:
>
>> Can you share some details in how this is implemented in terms of 
>> interfacing with the preferences architecture and changes users may have 
>> made in settings for selecting a specific font for CJK languages?
>
>
> They won't change. The changes will be for selecting the default value for 
> the preferences. If a user changes their preferences, they will be honored.
>
> PhistucK:
>
>> Another way could be to include the font as part of the Windows Chrome, I 
>> guess? This way, everyone benefits.
>
>
> Thanks, you're right, that's one of the possible options we're discussing.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:34 PM PhistucK <phis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another way could be to include the font as part of the Windows Chrome, I 
>> guess? This way, everyone benefits.
>>
>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:17 AM Koji Ishii <ko...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Joone:
>>>>
>>>> Is Noto Sans KR part of NotoCJK? If so, is it the default Korean font 
>>>> for Noto CJK?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> PhstucK:
>>>
>>>> What is the percentage of (relevant) users that have that font 
>>>> installed?
>>>> Is it very common for (relevant) non-power-users to install fonts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I don't have the number, and thus I can't answer how common it is. 
>>> I can see the Noto CJK is the most popular font at Google Fonts for all 
>>> CJK languages though.
>>>
>>> I understand this change may not have much impact, but it's still a 
>>> progression. We're looking into multiple options to improve the i18n 
>>> typography, such as updating `fixed` generic family as well, and I'm hoping 
>>> this will be the first change in the series.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 3:11 AM PhistucK <phis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the percentage of (relevant) users that have that 
>>>> font installed?
>>>> Is it very common for (relevant) non-power-users to install fonts?
>>>>
>>>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 6:47 PM Joone Hur <jo...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Koji,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Noto Sans KR part of NotoCJK? If so, is it the default Korean font 
>>>>> for Noto CJK?
>>>>> https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+KR
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Joone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 1:48 AM Koji Ishii <ko...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The default CJK fonts on Windows are going to change, to prefer Noto 
>>>>>> CJK if they are installed locally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This change is to improve the readability and typography of CJK text. 
>>>>>> Recent CSS features such as `text-spacing-trim 
>>>>>> <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-4/#text-spacing-trim-property>` 
>>>>>> (shipped 
>>>>>> in M123 <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170044014690304>) and `
>>>>>> font-variant-east-asian 
>>>>>> <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-fonts/#font-variant-east-asian-prop>` 
>>>>>> require OpenType features that are not available in the current default 
>>>>>> CJK 
>>>>>> fonts. In addition, Noto CJK is primarily designed for magazines, 
>>>>>> similar 
>>>>>> to Hiragino on macOS, which is a good fit for the default fonts for the 
>>>>>> web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This change includes preferring Noto CJK in the system fallback on 
>>>>>> Windows. This means that, if the user installed Noto CJK locally, and 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> page doesn't specify fonts that can serve CJK characters, the Noto CJK 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> be preferred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if there are any questions.
>>>>>>
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