Intent to Continue Experiment: Page Embedded Permission Control Contact emails
andypa...@google.com, pjmclach...@google.com, eng...@google.com Explainer https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md Specification (early draft) https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/otherdaniel/PEPC/pull/31.html Summary The first OT for the <permission> HTML element exposed only support for Camera / Mic permissions, which is slated to end with M131 / 19 FEB 2025. We would like to extend the OT to allow for an evolved testing, since we are adding support for a new permission type “geolocation” which will not be ready for testing until m132 (stable release Jan 7, 2025). Blink component Chromium Public Trackers > Chromium > Internals > Permissions > PermissionElement TAG review none TAG review status pending Chromium Trial Name FetchLaterAPI Origin Trial documentation link https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/experiments/fetch-later.md WebFeature UseCounter name kFetchLater Risks Interoperability and Compatibility There is risk that this feature fails to be adopted by other browsers, though we believe we can address non-supportive signal from other vendors Gecko: neutral WebKit: Initial Oppose ( https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/270), we are addressing feedback <https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/pull/17>. Some concerns will require experimental data from OT implementers to address, and this is a goal of the Origin Trial. Web developers: Positive - several first and third party partners are committed to experimenting with the API and have implementations ready for when the OT launches. Other signals: WebView application risks Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? None Reason this experiment is being extended The OT originally spans from 126-131, we would like to extend it starting from 132-134 (inclusive), as there is new functionality being added to the existing trial to support the addition of support for geolocation permission (<permission type=”geolocation”>), as well as to give additional partners chances to experiment with the existing <permission> element OT support for camera & mic permission types. The new functionality will not be ready for OT until the stable release of 132. Ongoing technical constraints Permission types other than camera, mic, and geolocation (new in 132) are not yet supported in the <permission> element OT. Debuggability none Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? Windows, Mac, Linux, & ChromeOS only. Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> ? Yes https://wpt.fyi/results/html/semantics/permission-element?label=experimental&label=master&aligned DevTrial instructions https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/experiments/fetch-later.md Flag name on chrome://flags none Finch feature name PermissionElement Requires code in //chrome? True Launch bug https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4320707/approver/14626 Estimated milestones Shipping OT on desktop 126 Initial OT end (desktop) 131 Requested extension (desktop) 131 Requested extension end (desktop) 134 Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status https://chromestatus.com/feature/5125006551416832 Links to previous Intent discussions Ready for Developer Testing : https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/D-mE5qIlkWY/m/TTEImcBnAAAJ Intent to prototype: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/TGsrhP4ref0/m/bHFj3id9AgAJ Intent to Experiment: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/9dANzlI1YgQ/m/hLwG1viaAwAJ?pli=1 On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 7:20 PM Penelope McLachlan <pjmclach...@google.com> wrote: > Contact emails > > andypa...@google.com, pjmclach...@google.com, eng...@google.com > > Explainer > > https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md > > Specification > > none > > Summary > > Provide a new HTML element that interacts with the permission flow. The > permission prompt is currently triggered directly from JS without the user > agent having any strong signal of the user's intent. Having an in-content > element that the user uses to trigger the permission flow allows for > improved permission prompt UX for users as well as a recovery path from the > "denied" permission state for sites. > > > Explainer: https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/blob/main/explainer.md > > This Origin Trial focuses only on the use of the control for > camera/microphone permissions. > > Blink component > > Chromium Public Trackers > Chromium > Internals > Permissions > > PermissionElement > > TAG review > > None > > TAG review status > > Pending > > Risks > Interoperability and Compatibility > > There is risk that this feature fails to be adopted by other browsers, > though we believe we can address non-supportive signal from other vendors > > Gecko: neutral > > WebKit: Initial Oppose ( > https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/270), we are addressing > feedback <https://github.com/WICG/PEPC/pull/17>. Some concerns will > require experimental data from OT implementers to address, and this is a > goal of the Origin Trial. > > Web developers: > > Positive - several first and third party partners are committed to > experimenting with the API and have implementations ready for when the OT > launches. > > Other signals: > > WebView application risks > > Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that > it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? > > None > > > Goals for experimentation > > > - Solicit more informed Web developer feedback to validate the element > API shape & functionality, including styling restrictions, specific to use > of the Page-embedded Permission Control for Camera / Mic. > - Validate developer use cases > - Ensure that the feature works correctly in conjunction with adjacent > features. > - Ensure that the feature provides a better overall UX for permission > interactions by allowing users a recovery path and less interruptions. > - Check metrics against existing permission usage as a baseline, for > example, investigate any significant increases or decreases in overall > block/accept rates in OT to ensure users are having a safe, easy to use > experience > > > Debuggability > > None > > Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, > Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? > > No - OT will not include Android & Android WebView > > > Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests > <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> > ? > > Yes - > https://wpt.fyi/results/html/semantics/permission-element?label=experimental&label=master&aligned > > > Flag name on chrome://flags > > none > > Finch feature name > > PermissionElement > > Tracking bug > > https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40275129 > > Launch bug > > https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4320707/approver/14626 > > Estimated milestones > > Shipping OT on desktop > > 126 > > > Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status > > https://chromestatus.com/feature/5125006551416832 > > Links to previous Intent discussions > > Ready for Developer Testing : > > > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/D-mE5qIlkWY/m/TTEImcBnAAAJ > > > Intent to prototype: > > > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/TGsrhP4ref0/m/bHFj3id9AgAJ > > > -- > *Penny McLachlan* > (she/her) > > Senior Product Manager > pjmclach...@google.com > Google Chrome > -- *Penny McLachlan* (she/her) Senior Product Manager pjmclach...@google.com Google Chrome -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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