I agree with Domenic about TAG risk; just flagging this as part of the 
larger package is great.

Will the rollout of this change be Finch controlled? Do you expect the 
launch to happen over a single release? If you do a partial rollout for 
compat reasons and it goes sideways, please let us know.

LGTM1

On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 6:23:15 PM UTC-7 Domenic Denicola wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 5:33 AM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>
>> Explainerhttps://open-ui.org/components/customizableselect
>>
>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10557
>>
>
> This PR is still getting pretty active review comments. At least some of 
> them seem like they'll impact the behavior. Do you think it would be 
> reasonable to wait for the PR to settle before approving? I don't think we 
> necessarily need to wait for formal approval or merging, but it seems like 
> right now normative steps (like "Reconstruct the active formatting 
> elements, if any") are being added and removed within the last 2 hours.
>  
>
>>
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> This change makes the HTML parser allow additional tags in <select> 
>> besides <option>, <optgroup>, and <hr>. This change is in support of the 
>> customizable <select> feature but is being shipped first because it can be 
>> done separately and has some compat risk which I'd like to get feedback on. 
>> Customizable select explainer: 
>> https://open-ui.org/components/customizableselect/ I did a compat 
>> analysis and determined that the vast majority of sites which would see the 
>> effects of the parser changes would not have their behavior changed. More 
>> details here: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10310 If there are 
>> major issues with this change, I will reassess and make adjustments to the 
>> parser as needed.
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>HTML>Parser 
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHTML%3EParser>
>>
>> TAG reviewNone
>>
>> TAG review statusPending
>>
>
> I suspect this doesn't need a separate TAG review from the general 
> customizable <select> one. But could you update ChromeStatus and this 
> thread to link to the customizable select TAG review?
>  
>
>>
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> I believe there is low interop risk because other vendors are reviewing 
>> the proposal in WHATWG and are not objected to changing the parser behavior 
>> here. There is a compat risk if websites are relying on the old parser 
>> behavior. As I mentioned in the main description, I have done an analysis 
>> and based on the websites I have investigated I believe there is low risk. 
>> If we encounter issues then I will adjust the parser as needed.
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: Positive of experimenting: 
>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/10310#issuecomment-2189178702
>>
>
> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1086 is probably 
> the better link, which looks like "No signal but leaning positive pending 
> confirmation".
>  
>
>>
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal (
>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/414)
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals (
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1086)
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Yes
>>
>
> The spec PR says "I still need to implement html5lib test changes". Did 
> that get done?
>  
>
>>
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flagsSelectParserRelaxation
>>
>> Finch feature nameSelectParserRelaxation
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/335456114
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>> Shipping on desktop 130
>> DevTrial on desktop 128
>> Shipping on Android 130
>> DevTrial on Android 128
>> Shipping on WebView 130
>>
>
> Are these accurate? The branch point for 130 has passed a while ago, and 
> it sounds like the behavior is still changing (per the 2-hours-ago 
> discussions on the spec PR).
>  
>
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or 
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues 
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may 
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of 
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5145948356083712?gate=5114873999261696
>>
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>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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