LGTM3

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 7:53 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> wrote:

> LGTM2. I think this is a useful improvement over permission policy
> violation reporting
>
> On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-5 Mike Taylor wrote:
>
>> LGTM1
>> On 1/27/25 6:27 PM, 'Jun Kokatsu' via blink-dev wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 6:45:39 PM UTC-8 Domenic Denicola wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 17, 2025 at 7:42:03 AM UTC+9 Jun Kokatsu wrote:
>>
>> Contact emailsjkok...@google.com
>>
>> Specificationhttps://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/pull/546
>>
>>
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Introduces a new violation type called "Potential Permissions Policy
>> violation", which will only look at Permissions Policy (including
>> report-only policy) and the allow attribute set in iframes to detect the
>> conflict between Permissions Policy enforced vs permissions propagated to
>> iframes.
>>
>> Motivation
>> Permissions Policy violation reports for cross-origin iframes are only
>> sent to the iframe's reporting endpoint and not to the embedder's reporting
>> endpoint, because of the concern that it might leak sensitive information
>> about a cross-origin iframe. However, this makes it difficult for sites to
>> enforce Permissions Policy because it can't learn about breakages in
>> cross-origin iframes. This feature introduces a new violation type called
>> "Potential Permissions Policy violation", which will only look at existing
>> Permissions Policy (including report-only policy) and the allow attribute
>> set in iframes to detect the conflict between Permissions Policy enforced
>> vs permissions being propagated to iframes. Since both Permissions Policy
>> and allow attributes are set by the embedder, this feature does not leak
>> any new information to the embedder. However, potential Permissions Policy
>> violations will be sent when an iframe is loaded, and not when the iframe
>> uses the prohibited feature, which is different from the normal Permissions
>> Policy violations which fires upon a feature usage (hence the name
>> "potential").
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>PermissionsPolicy
>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EPermissionsPolicy%22>
>>
>> TAG reviewNone
>>
>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>
>>
>> Can you say more why you believe TAG review is not applicable for this
>> feature? I cannot figure out which exception, if any, it falls under from 
>> this
>> list
>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/wide-review/#exceptions>
>> .
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I think I missed this step. I will submit for a TAG review, and
>> come back to this thread once the TAG review is approved.
>>
>> FWIW, I don't think we should block on TAG review resolution - but it's
>> useful to file an issue, in case someone is keeping track of APIs that do
>> reporting, or have report-only modes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: No signal
>> <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1164>
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal
>> <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/448>
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>>
>> Why are we proposing to ship this, if it is not interesting to any web
>> developers, and has support from no other browsers?
>>
>>
>> We'd like to mitigate Permission Delegation of powerful permissions to
>> unintentional sites (e.g. HTML injection in Bing resulted in camera
>> access in Edge
>> <https://speakerdeck.com/shhnjk/piloting-edge-copilot?slide=27>) in
>> Google applications.
>> So we do have internal developer support. But I'm not sure if there is
>> external developer support.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> Security
>>
>> Potential Permissions Policy violation reports should not include any new
>> information about cross-origin iframes
>>
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?No
>>
>>
>> Which platform will it not be supported on?
>>
>>
>> This had to be Yes. I've fixed it in Chrome status.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/pull/49978
>>
>>
>>
>> Flag name on about://flagsNone
>>
>> Finch feature namePotentialPermissionsPolicyReporting
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://issues.chromium.org/issues/40941424
>>
>> Estimated milestonesShipping on desktop134
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Statushttps://chromestatus.com/
>> feature/5154241037205504?gate=5069369228656640
>>
>>
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