Just a passer-by.

As far as I remember, time ago, when Chrome's team initially introduced 
Fullscreen it was only long press Esc as the escape hatch of Fullscreen 
mode, but later the X toast was added, if this is true, it means it's 
solely a design-related decision for Chrome

I personally believe an average end-user outside the world of web 
development knows what Escape key is and what is meant for, therefore I 
believe the majority of Chrome users are mature enough to live without the 
toast...

With that in mind, I was wondering to ask if this long requested feature 
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues/324520861> is about to be implemented 
any soon ? If not, what about allowing the end-user (in this case, - 
developer) to write JavaScript that defines native pointer behaviour 
through the means of Pointer lock API: when cursor is about to hit the top 
of viewport it locks native cursor, and then quickly release the pointer 
once the cursor is back to viewport, and most importantly - *WITHOUT asking 
to press Esc* to return the native pointer to the screen, as this gives 
some native non-configurable toast whatsoever. Ultimately, if specification 
to API is not available, or its prone to security flaws, provide Chrome 
UI-level customization in user-settings along with default flags.

Thank you.

Feature Request: Hide (X) toast in Fullscreen 
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues/324520861>

On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 01:17:21 UTC+2 Muyao Xu wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to share some updates on this feature:
> 1. The pointer lock permission has been removed from the scope because we 
> found that the Pointer Lock API isn't heavily abused like the Keyboard Lock 
> API. We'll add the permission modal for the Keyboard Lock API only.
> 2. We'll address these issues 
> <https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/385395442/dependencies> and run an 
> experiment to see if we've reduced impact on regular use cases (i.e. higher 
> permission grant rate) before proceeding.
>
> Thanks,
> Muyao
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 6:55 AM Arthur Baker <art...@bloxd.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi Muyao,
>>
>> Thanks for rolling this back. I'm not sure what the plan is for 
>> re-implementation, but a suggestion for (1): bloxd is (and I'm sure many 
>> other sites are) completely unusable without pointer lock. It would be 
>> significantly preferable if users kept seeing the pointer lock permission 
>> modal upon re-request; than us having to try to teach users how to use 
>> chrome's UI. Sites that are functional without pointer lock can simply not 
>> re-request it themselves.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arthur
>>
>> On Friday, 20 December 2024 at 13:16:07 UTC Muyao Xu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Raf,
>>>
>>> We've noticed these issues and plan to roll back the feature. Due to the 
>>> holidays, we're moving slower than usual and we should start the roll back 
>>> process by the end of the week.
>>>
>>> > 1. Some users click 'never allow', and then we don't have a way to 
>>> re-trigger the pop-up.
>>>
>>> It's not currently supported to re-trigger the permission modal. A 
>>> workaround is to check the permission state following the guide in this 
>>> blog 
>>> <https://developer.chrome.com/blog/keyboard-lock-pointer-lock-permission> 
>>> and 
>>> show a message prompting users to enable the permission.
>>>
>>> > 2. Users who click 'allow this time' keep getting the popup every 
>>> second
>>>
>>> Does the website request and then release the pointer lock frequently? 
>>> If users select "allow this time" for the pointer lock permission, they 
>>> need to grant the permission every time a pointer lock is requested.
>>>
>>> I agree that this is not a good user experience if sites need to request 
>>> pointer lock frequently. Selecting "Always allow" should solve the problem 
>>> for now. I'll look into alternative implementations such as granting the 
>>> permission until users navigate away.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Muyao
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 8:45 PM Raf Mertens <r...@crazygames.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> We've noticed here at CrazyGames that the pointer-lock permission in 
>>>> Chrome 131 is causing some issues for web games.
>>>>
>>>> In particular:
>>>> 1. Some users click 'never allow', and then we don't have a way to 
>>>> re-trigger the pop-up.
>>>> 2. Users who click 'allow this time' keep getting the popup every 
>>>> second or so, e.g. in 
>>>> https://www.crazygames.com/game/bullet-force-multiplayer
>>>> here's a video: 
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_LTfmJGHh4C-tF7e8WzsCAms6wR0ef_V/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Without the pointer-lock, many games are unplayable.
>>>>
>>>> We noticed there's this original trial for <Permission /> (
>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/permission-element-origin-trial), 
>>>> but it doesn't seem to include pointer-lock? 
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone here be able to give us some advice? We're happy to 
>>>> discuss in a video call as well.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Raf
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 27 September 2024 at 20:51:47 UTC+2 Muyao Xu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vincent, 
>>>>>
>>>>> > If both keyboard and pointer locks are requested by a page will the 
>>>>> user be prompted twice or will the permission be merged into one dialog?
>>>>> Yes. It will be combined to a single permission model.
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-09-27 at 11.47.12 AM.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> > Does the permission dialog explain how to exit the locked state?
>>>>> No. After the permission is accepted, Chrome shows a toast message at 
>>>>> the top of the screen with instructions to exit.[image: Screenshot 
>>>>> 2024-09-27 at 11.51.09 AM.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Muyao
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 11:40 AM Vincent Scheib <sch...@chromium.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If both keyboard and pointer locks are requested by a page will the 
>>>>>> user be prompted twice or will the permission be merged into one dialog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the permission dialog explain how to exit the locked state?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 1:29 PM Alesandro Ortiz <
>>>>>> ales...@alesandroortiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Muyao,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ChromeStatus entry says it's shipping in M131 but the 
>>>>>>> implementation status is still set to "In Development", which I think 
>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>> preventing it from appearing in the Roadmap page: 
>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/roadmap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because it didn't appear in the Roadmap, I thought it had been 
>>>>>>> postponed again, until I searched for the feature directly in 
>>>>>>> ChromeStatus 
>>>>>>> and still saw the M131 target.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you please update the ChromeStatus entry so it appears in the 
>>>>>>> Roadmap and anywhere else that is beneficial for launch comms? 
>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5142031990259712
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you're following the launch process under the 
>>>>>>> "Web-developer-facing 
>>>>>>> change to existing behavior 
>>>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#psa-prepare-to-ship>"
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> scenario which doesn't explicitly say to change the implementation 
>>>>>>> status, 
>>>>>>> unlike the steps for other scenarios, so this might have been a 
>>>>>>> documentation issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More broadly, launch comms for this feature has not been as expected 
>>>>>>> [1] <https://issues.chromium.org/issues/324147495#comment11> [2] 
>>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues/314694812#comment4>. If you 
>>>>>>> can, please chat with DevRel about the launch process for this feature 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> identify potential improvements based on your experience with this 
>>>>>>> feature. 
>>>>>>> For example, there may be missing steps in the launch docs or 
>>>>>>> elsewhere. 
>>>>>>> Hopefully any improvements prevent similar launch comms issues in the 
>>>>>>> future. Feel free to email me directly about feedback as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all your work on this feature! Look forward to the launch 
>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Alesandro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 4:36:23 PM UTC-4 Rick Byers 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you Muyao! Please keep an eye out for reports of 
>>>>>>>> issues - the last thing we want to do is break any legitimate uses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 4:25 PM Muyao Xu <muy...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. This is functionality completed in M130 and developers can 
>>>>>>>>> use the flag chrome://flags/#keyboard-and-pointer-lock-prompt for 
>>>>>>>>> testing. You can find the list of open bugs here 
>>>>>>>>> <https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/314694812/dependencies>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Muyao
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 6:45 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads up on this. Is the functionality complete in 
>>>>>>>>>> 130 already? I.e. is Chrome dev channel suitable for developers to 
>>>>>>>>>> test 
>>>>>>>>>> this behavior and confirm it works OK for their product? Or are 
>>>>>>>>>> there flags 
>>>>>>>>>> that should be turned on for testing still?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I assume this behavior is controlled via finch so that we have a 
>>>>>>>>>> kill-switch if needed (eg. if we get a report of a high-priority 
>>>>>>>>>> issue only 
>>>>>>>>>> once it rolls out to stable)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>    Rick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 3:26 AM 'Thomas Steiner' via blink-dev <
>>>>>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Created http://cl/672833499 (sorry, this is Google-internal) to 
>>>>>>>>>>> document this change. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 1:01 AM 'Muyao Xu' via blink-dev <
>>>>>>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> muy...@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyboard Lock API: https://wicg.github.io/keyboard-lock/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pointer Lock API: https://www.w3.org/TR/pointerlock-2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrome Status Entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5142031990259712
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Show a permission prompt to the user when Keyboard Lock and/or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pointer Lock is requested by a website, and saves the user 
>>>>>>>>>>>> preferences as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> content settings. Currently, Keyboard.lock() and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Element.requestPointerLock() both return a promise. The returned 
>>>>>>>>>>>> promise 
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be resolved if the permission is granted and the promise will 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected if the permission is denied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The permission prompt notifies the user that the website is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> requesting Keyboard Lock and/or Pointer Lock, and allows them to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> choose whether to grant or deny those capabilities. This makes it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> more 
>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult for malicious websites (e.g., tech support scam 
>>>>>>>>>>>> websites) to gain 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the capabilities and prevent the user from exiting the website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink components
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink>Input 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EInput>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking Bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> crbug.com/314694812
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> M130
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