LGTM2

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 9:36 AM Daniel Bratell <brat...@sarasas.se> wrote:

> LGTM1
>
> (I'm a bit worried that it won't be interoperable between browsers but
> since it's so easy to implement, and since other browsers have said they
> are on top of it, I think it will be fine)
>
> /Daniel
> On 2025-02-27 06:18, Domenic Denicola wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 1:41 AM 'Dan Clark' via blink-dev <
> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> The spec PR thread has a Gecko bug linked (
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1943649), but I don't see a
>> WebKit bug. Can you please file one to ensure we don't lost track of WebKit
>> aligning to the proposed change?
>
>
> Done <https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288688>, thanks for the
> push!
>
>
>>
>> -- Dan
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 8:15:40 PM UTC-8 Mingyu Lei wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry I misunderstood the process before and I have just requested for
>>> those reviews.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 8:40:54 PM UTC+9 Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you please request reviews for privacy, security, enterprise,
>>>> debuggability and testing?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 17, 2025 at 6:07:07 PM UTC+1 Mingyu Lei wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> These two fields are used to indicate the loaded and total progress,
>>>>> it will be very surprised to see some sites passing in a negative number
>>>>> for either of these fields and relying on the negative -> infinity number
>>>>> conversion behavior to make something work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Code wise, I'm not sure if it's possible to get the "wrong" usage
>>>>> metrics without introducing the new change, since what we now get from the
>>>>> ProgressEvent constructor is the already-converted uint64.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 17, 2025 at 10:32:58 PM UTC+9 Stephen Chenney
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I should have looked more carefully at the context for the
>>>>>> proposed change. Yes, there is no way to kill switch this so I withdraw 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> concern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still worried in particular about the change from "negative goes
>>>>>> to infinity" to "negative stays negative" but I accept there's nothing to
>>>>>> be done apart from launching and seeing what, if anything, happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 8:36 PM Domenic Denicola <dom...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 12:41 AM Stephen Chenney <
>>>>>>> sche...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:06 PM Chromestatus <
>>>>>>>> ad...@cr-status.appspotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact emails le...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Explainer https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>> https://whatpr.org/xhr/394.html#interface-progressevent
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ProgressEvent has attributes `loaded` and `total` indicating
>>>>>>>>> the progress, and their type is `unsigned long long` now. With this
>>>>>>>>> feature, the type for these two attributes is changed to `double` 
>>>>>>>>> instead,
>>>>>>>>> which gives the developer more control over the value. For example, 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> developers can now create a ProgressEvent with the `total` of 1 and 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> `loaded` increasing from 0 to 1 gradually. This is aligned with the 
>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>> behavior of the <progress> HTML element if the max attribute is 
>>>>>>>>> omitted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink
>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%22>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This change will not be visible if the web developers implement
>>>>>>>>> the ProgressEvent using non-negative integer in the loaded or total 
>>>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>>> However, if a negative number or a decimal number is used, it would be
>>>>>>>>> converted to unsigned integer before, but will be returned without any
>>>>>>>>> conversion after this feature is introduced. For example - `new
>>>>>>>>> ProgressEvent("event", { loaded: 1.1 }).loaded` is 1 now, but it will 
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> 1.1 after the change. - `new ProgressEvent("event", { loaded: -1 
>>>>>>>>> }).loaded`
>>>>>>>>> is 18446744073709552000 now, but it will be -1 after the change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394#issuecomment-2607316190)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive (
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394#issuecomment-2603844507)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/webmachinelearning/writing-assistance-apis/issues/15)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs,
>>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based
>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progress-events-response-data-gzip.htm?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progressevent-constructor.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progressevent-interface.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flag name on about://flags None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fine with no Finch, but a kill switch should be included on a
>>>>>>>> change like this, just in case there is more breakage than anticipated.
>>>>>>>> Even better, if possible, would be UseCounter measurements of how often
>>>>>>>> sites would see different behavior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How would you propose implementing a kill switch for an IDL feature
>>>>>>> like this? Since IDL cannot be guarded behind flags, it would be pretty
>>>>>>> difficult. (Custom bindings, maybe?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't believe this minor feature requires such caution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Non-finch justification
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This feature changes the definition of existing implementation of
>>>>>>>>> ProgressEvent so it's not possible to conduct a finch experiment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 135
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web
>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known
>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose
>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to 
>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5067669587623936?gate=5176277298053120
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
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