The implementation statuses here are mostly based on assumption, can we 
have some test case to verify that? Especially when Peter is here who's 
known with his great test pages 💜 (https://tests.peter.sh/)

On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 2:54:55 PM UTC+2 Peter Beverloo wrote:

> Hi Antonio,
>
> Thank you for working on this - this is a great change: especially on 
> Android it's very easy for users to accidentally disable, and then 
> immediately re-enable notification permission, without realising that they 
> have to visit the site again in order to continue receiving notifications. 
> This creates a convenient recovery path in the way the spec intended.
>
> We should monitor whether we could safely create a new subscription 
> internally and pass it to the `pushsubscriptionchange` event, but as you 
> mention it's not entirely clear what existing implementations of the event 
> do. Manually creating a new subscription is safe in either scenario, and 
> forward compatible with passing in one ourselves as `subscribe()` is 
> designed to be called any number of times.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 1:46 PM Antonio Sartori <antonio...@chromium.org> 
> wrote:
>
>> Contact emailsantonio...@chromium.org
>>
>> ExplainerNone
>>
>> Specification
>> https://w3c.github.io/push-api/#the-pushsubscriptionchange-event
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Fire the pushsubscriptionchange event in service workers when an origin 
>> for which a push subscription existed in the past, but which was revoked 
>> because of a permission change (from granted to deny/default), is 
>> re-granted notification permission. The event will be fired with an empty 
>> oldSubscription and newSubscription.
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>PushAPI 
>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EPushAPI%22>
>>
>> Motivation
>>
>> This change is helpful for web developers and for users. On the one hand, 
>> when regranting notification permissions, used are likely to expect to 
>> start receiving again notifications right away. On the other hand, web 
>> developers must basically keep trying resubscribing to notifications in 
>> order to recover from a permission being ungranted and then granted again. 
>> The specification supports the pushsubscriptionchange event, although is 
>> relatively vague around the exact circumstances in which such event may or 
>> should be fired.
>>
>>
>> Initial public proposalNone
>>
>> TAG reviewNone
>>
>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping (
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497429) Firefox seems to 
>> already implement a similar behavior, see 
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1497429
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal Seems shipped, but couldn't figure out the exact 
>> details. See 
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/ServiceWorkerGlobalScope/pushsubscriptionchange_event
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals Likely positive, see for example 
>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40129474
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?No
>>
>> Flag name on about://flagsNone
>>
>> Finch feature nameNone
>>
>> Non-finch justificationNone
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://issues.chromium.org/issues/407523313
>>
>> Launch bughttps://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4390563
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>>
>> M137
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5147683423256576?gate=6273678305918976
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