On Saturday, May 23, 2026 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-7 Anton Bershanskyi wrote:

> > Under the old flow, email mailbox providers can track which users sign 
up for a mail box just to activate an account elsewhere.
> I'm not quite sure I understand the use case you are referring to (expand 
a bit?), but I just wanted to note that I don't think that email providers 
don't currently have any programatic / machine readable way to track which 
users sign-up for an account elsewhere.

I'm concerned about use of EVP by bots to create many free-tier accounts 
with relying parties and inability of issuers to block bots. In other 
words, the existing email verification system has a problem of 
"farmability" and EVP might make account "farming" even easier.
Specifically, this section 
<https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol#webauthn-api> 
showcases 
a flow to "Autocreate an account for shrine.com" 


<= this section isn't covered in this specific origin trial. This is 
"related work" that's worth noting, but not covered by this OT request 
specifically.

FWIW, it might be worth noting, in the context of bots, that we are 
actively trying to make logging in/out and creating accounts on websites 
programatically available to agents (I'm not sure if you make a distinction 
between agents and bots?), so seemed somewhat worth raising here:

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/FLaenhru3zo/m/SENIzk21AAAJ
 
 

with name and email pre-filled and one-click confirmation "Touch ID to 
continue". Currently, bots can create mailboxes with email providers like 
gmail.com (the "issuers") and then create accounts with websites like 
shrine.com (the "relying parties"/"RP"), but every account with RP 
necessitates an email from RP shrine.com to Issuer gmail.com and thus 
creates friction and permits Issuer gmail.com to track the occurrence of 
sign-ups with shrine.com. The issuer/email provider gmail.com can notice 
that someone creates a fresh gmail.com mailbox and then almost immediately 
receives a confirmation email from relying party shrine.com and never 
engages in genuine use of gmail.com mailbox. In other words, someone may be 
using gmail.com purely for access to shrine.com account. Currently the 
issuer gmail.com can restrict such "farming" by requiring a subscription or 
Captchas or any other form of human verification. Issuer gmail.com might 
restrict new gmail.com mailbox accounts from access to shrine.com 
verification emails but allow access to newsletters, sending emails to 
regular mailboxes, etc. Extra friction and issuer agency is *good* property 
if we want to reduce the frequency of bogus sign-ups with relying parties 
(account "farming").
On Friday, May 22, 2026 at 10:11:06 PM UTC+3 Sam Goto wrote:



On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 12:03 PM Anton Bershanskyi <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Is there a plan for Permission/Feature Policy and/or browser settings 
integration? CL 7868831 suggests that the current plan is to disable EVP in 
fenced frames and cross-origin documents. Is the final decision or just a 
temporary solution? 


Yeah, disabling is just temporarily. We expect we'd figure out how to 
enable this in iframes at some point (e.g. as you suggested, with the 
proper permission/feature policies).
 

Will users 

This proposal might improve convenience, but also has two hidden effects. 
EVP appears to intentionally simultaneously reduce the friction of giving 
out personally identifiable information (PII) of real users and reduce the 
effort for email verification for automated users.

Accidental PII disclosure already occurs on the modern web. Is there a 
mechanism planned for opting out of the EVP flow and falling back to the 
old flow of 'submit email into a form' -> 'wait for an confirmation email' 
-> 'take action described in the email'?


Yes.

We are stil finalizing our settings / permissioning model, but as an 
approximation, we'd expect users to opt-in to this feature manually per 
email (and have global settings that enable/disable the feature).

I got over this in this section: 
https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol#permission-model
 

I personally occasionally encounter forms which get filled out prior to my 
explicit action.


EVP is only triggered when a user manually and explicitly fills an email 
field (https://chromium-review.git.corp.google.com/c/chromium/src/+/7865165
).

We want to figure out how to trigger EVP when (a) users type emails (e.g. 
maybe onblur) and (b) fill profiles, but we haven't figured out how to do 
that yet.
 

For example, I avoid storing credit card details in the browser because it 
is easier to copy few numbers than to dispute a charge. It would be 
unfortunate if user had multiple emails and autofill would auto-populate 
one email while the user actually wanted to input a different one. Will 
users be able to observe the information exchange between browser, RP 
Server, and Issuer?


I believe so, in its current implementation.
 


The second concern of automated form submissions by bots is even more 
challenging. Under the old flow, email mailbox providers can track which 
users sign up for a mail box just to activate an account elsewhere.


I'm not quite sure I understand the use case you are referring to (expand a 
bit?), but I just wanted to note that I don't think that email providers 
don't currently have any programatic / machine readable way to track which 
users sign-up for an account elsewhere.
 

Under the new scheme, the relying party is meant to validate ownership of 
the mailbox even without informing the mailbox provider of new account 
sign-up.

On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 8:58:26 PM UTC+3 Sam Goto wrote:

On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 7:58 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <[email protected]> 
wrote:

LGTM to experiment M150-M153 inclusive (but please merge the explainers to 
avoid confusion :D)


Thanks for the quick review!!!
 


On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 4:35 PM Sam Goto <[email protected]> wrote:



On Wed, May 20, 2026, 4:46 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <[email protected]> 
wrote:



On Wednesday, May 20, 2026 at 2:02:14 AM UTC+2 Sam Goto wrote:

*Contact emails*
[email protected]

*Explainer*
https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol


Why not https://github.com/WICG/email-verification-protocol ?
I see that those two explainers are different.. What's preventing aligning 
them?


Ah, just a fork that I'm working on getting merged into the main branch. 
There was a batch of changes that we made recently (mostly on non-normative 
text) that we didn't have the time yet to review. But yeah, it should be 
momentarily merged into the WICG repo.

 



*Specification*
Per TAG feedback, we broke the specification into two parts:
An IETF backend specification here: https://dickhardt.
github.io/email-verification/draft-hardt-email-verification.html
And a corresponding W3C frontend specification which we will provide as we 
go through the Origin Trial and see the API design settle.

*Demos*
https://code.sgo.to/2024/10/25/verified-email-autocomplete.html

*Summary*
EVP (email verification protocol) helps users create, access and recover 
accounts by providing cryptographic proof of ownership seamlessly rather 
than email OTPs manually. It requires website authors, email providers and 
browsers to participate.

*Blink component*
Blink>Identity 
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EIdentity%22>

*Web Feature ID*
Missing feature

*TAG review*
https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1169 

One of the main pieces of feedback was to take part of the spec to IETF 
(which would be able to assess parts of the proposal better), which we took 
by writing and circulating the following draft, as well as starting to find 
the appropriate groups for broader review: https://dickhardt.
github.io/email-verification/draft-hardt-email-verification.html

*TAG review status*
We requested an early TAG review and got an "ambivalent". We will request 
another TAG review or reopen it as the design settles.

*Goals for experimentation*
There is much that we'd like to learn in origin trials, because there are 
multiple moving parts here. 

First, we'd like to gather evidence of developer demand and API fitness: is 
autocomplete a good entry point? what kinds of forms and UXs are out there? 
does the benefit developers get outweigh the cost of implementation? 

Second, we'd like to gather evidence if email providers are incentivized 
too. What's in it for them? Is the backend API appropriate? 

Third, we'd like to gather data on how users interact with the UX 
implementation: will users accept the prompt? do they expect the token to 
be shared during form submission or email selection? 

Fourth, we'd love to learn if other browsers empathize with the user and 
ecosystem pain too, and if the implementation choices we made are 
transferable to their architectures too. 

Fifth, more broadly, email verification is at the center of a lot of 
identity flows, so we'd like to learn how it might relate to other 
mechanisms, such as federation, phone number verification and 
password/passkey management.

*Risks*




*Interoperability and Compatibility*
*No information provided*

*Gecko*: Defer (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1316) We 
filed for an early review before we had all of the information for Mozilla 
to make a proper assessment. We think we understand the proposal better now 
than we did 6 months ago, so we are planning to re-open the standard 
position request and try to offer some of the clarity that was lacking.

*WebKit*: No signal (https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/
issues/578) We haven't formally gotten a review from Webkit, but we got 
some informal feedback last TPAC with their preference to augment WebOTP / 
one-time-codes and OTPs and activate IMAP clients (of which there are 
fewer) rather than email providers. We believe this alternative isn't 
necessarily mutually exclusive and can work symbiotically with what's being 
proposed. We expanded on that here: https://github.com/
samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol#webotp-otps-vs-evts-and-imap

*Web developers*: Positive This API requires participation by websites and 
email providers. We successfully ran a devtrial with a few partners which 
we expect will join us running an original trial. Based on what we heard so 
far, we are optimistic this will hit a sweet spot with website authors, but 
 we'd like to gather further evidence of developer demand and API fitness 
in an actual production setup.

*Other signals*:

*Ergonomics*
We think a declarative autocomplete API strikes the right balance for 
developers and users. There are a series of other variations that we have 
explored and are open to revisiting based on developer feedback that we 
listed here: https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-
protocol#website-api

*Activation*
This proposal requires incentivizing and changing websites, email 
providers, browsers and, to a smaller extent, user behavior. Much of the 
incentives are going to be pulled by the availability of email providers, 
which we think might be feasible to bootstrap. More on the economics here:
https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol#
activation-considerations

*Security*
https://github.com/samuelgoto/email-verification-protocol#
security-considerations

*WebView application risks*

Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
*No information provided*


*Ongoing technical constraints*
*No information provided*

*Debuggability*
Still being developed. Basic error messages in the developer console 
available.

*Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
No. We are planning to start on desktop first and then introduce Android. 
We aren't sure if it would be possible/useful to support WebView.

*Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
Not currently available.

*DevTrial instructions*
https://github.com/WICG/email-verification-protocol/blob/main/HOWTO.md

*Flag name on about://flags*
#email-verification-protocol

*Finch feature name*
*No information provided*

*Non-finch justification*
*No information provided*

*Requires code in //chrome?*
True

*Estimated milestones*
Origin trial desktop first150Origin trial desktop last153

*Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5205725253074944?gate=5146029401964544

*Links to previous Intent discussions*
Intent to Prototype: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/
msgid/blink-dev/68bb77c8.050a0220.257801.0191.GAE%40google.com


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