On Fri, Sep 4, 2026, 2:12 PM Philip Jägenstedt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Noam,
>
> Just for clarity, you still consider this intent on pause, right? But you
> might do an Intent to Ship which includes this in the plans?
>
>>

Yes, sorry for the ambiguity.
It's still on pause. I am sharing my intention to revive this soon under
those conditions, and welcoming feedback!

On Thu, Sep 3, 2026 at 11:10 AM Noam Rosenthal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Coming back to this after 2 years and multiple bugs related to firing
>> events while removing nodes :)
>>
>> I think this is still worth pursuing, alongside deprecating
>> pagehide/visibilitychange event on iframe removal.
>>
>> I checked the landscape of libraries that rely on this, and most/all of
>> them have an ugly workaround for Gecko/Webkit, to check if the focus
>> element was removed with a MutationObserver.
>> The WHATWG community was happy with adding a "focusreset" event (or some
>> such) for these cases so that people can avoid this workaround.
>>
>> I believe that standardizing/shipping that event + deprecating
>> blur+focusout+change on removal is the right next steps, first behind a
>> flag to check for webcompat, and probably with an enterprise policy for a
>> while.
>> Discussion and examples are here:
>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/12842
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 4:20:53 PM UTC+1 Noam Rosenthal wrote:
>>
>>> Update on this: we're still interested in the next step but it's in the
>>> back burner until mutation event deprecation is complete, to avoid related
>>> noise.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 12:52:23 PM UTC+1 Noam Rosenthal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:12 PM Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A good start would be Scott O'Hara from Microsoft. He would know
>>>>> others to loop in.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, will reach out. We see this deprecation as a long-haul thing,
>>>> and sent this I2D to start the conversation. Thanks for the pointers!
>>>>
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