Great! I've reopened the API owners review.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 9:13 AM [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the long delay in following up. I'd like to resume this review.
>
> I've updated the ChromeStatus entry(
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5123480866783232), including the current
> implementation evidence and a tentative M158 target. WebKit has also made
> the `CSSImportRule.styleSheet` IDL nullable.
>
> I'll follow up with updated answers to Daniel's questions about current
> behavior and compatibility impact. Could you reopen the review?
>
> Thanks,
> Amos
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:38:02 AM UTC+9 Chris Harrelson wrote:
>
>> Hi, we are going to go ahead and close this review. Please let us know if
>> and when you come back to it so we can reopen.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:12 AM Daniel Bratell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> (resending to list since I accidentally dropped it)
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We discussed this intent in the API Owner meeting, and I ended up with
>>> some questions.
>>>
>>> Question 1: What is the current behaviour in the case where the
>>> specification wants us to return null?
>>>
>>> Question 2: I understand that Gecko currently follows the specification
>>> as it is written, but if this change has a web compat risk, maybe it is the
>>> specification that should change. Was that something you considered?
>>>
>>> Question 3: What is the web compatibility risk? Do you have any
>>> information about how many pages that would be affected (possibly
>>> negatively)? We want to have an idea of how impactful a change will be
>>> before shipping it, and at least I don't know if this is used by one page
>>> in a billion or half the web.
>>>
>>> /Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024-03-06 15:48, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if there is any interest from developers. The spec was
>>> updated last April [1]. I started this from the spec change and the related
>>> crbug.
>>>
>>> I filed an issue[2] last week and got a comment[3] in WebKit. The
>>> reviewer's worry would be that the lifetime of these objects is not
>>> carefully defined and as such when they return null and non-null can end up
>>> varying in edge cases.
>>>
>>> I thought this was very clear to be changed in spec that CSSOM was not
>>> matched with at-rule behavior and it has low compat risk.
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8608
>>> [2] https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/325
>>> [3]
>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/325#issuecomment-1966698090
>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 7:28:32 PM UTC+9 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friendly ping on the above questions! :)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:18 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do I understand correctly that this would partially align us with
>>>>> Firefox (modulo the crash), and take us away from WebKit interoperability?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, it'd be good to understand if:
>>>>> * There is interest from developers in this
>>>>> * WebKit is planning to follow
>>>>> * This has low compat risk (in terms of current sites relying on this
>>>>> value not being null somehow)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:52 AM [email protected] <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >  Would you mind explaining why this is a useful addition for
>>>>>> developers? Or is the motivation improved spec compliance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both perspectives. The CSS OM spec was fixed because it was not
>>>>>> matched with the spec of @import in css-cascade. The behaviour of
>>>>>> CSSImportRule is not following @import.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Can you request a signal?
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, I filed an issue.
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/325
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > All of these tests are passing right now - will you be adding new
>>>>>> tests?Yes, I will add new tests in
>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom/cssimportrule.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>> I am working on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5065830/8/third_party/blink/web_tests/external/wpt/css/cssom/cssimportrule.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 7:14:59 AM UTC+9 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/23/24 8:31 AM, Amos Lim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact emails [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explainer None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you mind explaining why this is a useful addition for
>>>>>>> developers? Or is the motivation improved spec compliance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>> https://drafts.csswg.org/cssom/#the-cssimportrule-interface
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allow CSSImportRule.styleSheet to be nullable. The styleSheet
>>>>>>> attribute in CSSImportRule can be null if there is no associated CSS 
>>>>>>> style
>>>>>>> sheet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>CSS
>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ECSS>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TAG review None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you request a signal?
>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom/cssimportrule.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All of these tests are passing right now - will you be adding new
>>>>>>> tests?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finch feature name CSSImportRuleStyleSheetNullable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40266154
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 124
>>>>>>> Shipping on Android 124
>>>>>>> Shipping on WebView 124
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat
>>>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github
>>>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution 
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or 
>>>>>>> structure of
>>>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5123480866783232
>>>>>>>
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