Adam, could you confirm whether this is appropriate to ship as-is? During 
the implementation review, BBRv1 was determined not to be suitable, so 
"low-latency" was mapped to BBRv2 for now, the same algorithm used for 
"throughput" with a TODO to revisit it.  

Given that background, do we consider BBRv2 to satisfy both preferences, or 
should "low-latency" fall back to "default" until a more suitable option is 
available? Your context on that decision would help address the concern.

On Monday, October 19, 2026 at 2:33:31 PM UTC-7 Reilly Grant wrote:

> I'm concerned that shipping this is premature because according to the 
> code 
> <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:net/quic/dedicated_web_transport_http3_client.cc;l=472;drc=4e393f181c91e3b221ece53fb83205e3602b6495>
>  both 
> the "throughput" and "low-latency" options apply the same congestion 
> control algorithm, with a TODO to consider doing something else.
> Reilly Grant | Software Engineer | [email protected] | Google Chrome 
> <https://www.google.com/chrome>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 12:10 PM 'Monica Chintala' via blink-dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all. I’ve updated both browser positions to Neutral and added 
>> clarifying comments per the recommendation, but the changes don’t appear to 
>> be showing on the ChromeStatus entry yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 19, 2026 at 11:35:04 AM UTC-7 Dan Clark wrote:
>>
>>> LGTM2
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 19, 2026 at 11:29:17 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can we update the positions of other browsers to be more accurate 
>>>> (e.g., neutral) given that they have not actually shipped the whole 
>>>> feature?
>>>>
>>>> With that nit, LGTM1.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 15, 2026 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Monica Chintala 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, the existing Mozilla and WebKit links are positions on Web 
>>>>> Transport overall, not specifically on the congestion-control option. 
>>>>> Both 
>>>>> Firefox and Safari expose the API surface, but their behavioral support 
>>>>> differs. Firefox currently ignores the requested value and reports the 
>>>>> spec-permitted  "default"  fallback. Safari reflects the requested value, 
>>>>> but its open-source network-process implementation does not pass it into 
>>>>> the QUIC configuration. The shared WPT passes in all three engines, but 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> intentionally permits fallback to "default" and therefore tests API 
>>>>> interoperability rather than the underlying congestion-control behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 15, 2026 at 10:13:21 AM UTC-7 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/26 6:45 p.m., Chromestatus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> *Contact emails*
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Explainer*
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/blob/main/explainer.md
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Specification*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/webtransport/#dom-webtransportoptions-congestioncontrol
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Summary*
>>>>>> Adds the congestionControl constructor option and read-only attribute 
>>>>>> to WebTransport. Applications can request "default", "throughput", or 
>>>>>> "low-latency" behavior, allowing the user agent to select suitable 
>>>>>> congestion-control behavior for each session. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Blink component*
>>>>>> Blink>Network>WebTransport 
>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ENetwork%3EWebTransport%22>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web Feature ID*
>>>>>> webtransport <https://webstatus.dev/features/webtransport> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Motivation*
>>>>>> WebTransport applications have different performance requirements. 
>>>>>> Interactive applications prioritize low latency, while bulk transfers 
>>>>>> prioritize throughput. This hint lets applications express that 
>>>>>> preference 
>>>>>> without selecting or controlling a specific congestion-control 
>>>>>> algorithm. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Initial public proposal*
>>>>>> *No information provided*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *TAG review*
>>>>>> Not applicable as a separate review. This is an incremental 
>>>>>> implementation of an API already defined in the W3C WebTransport 
>>>>>> specification and covered by the broader WebTransport TAG review: 
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1212 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *TAG review status*
>>>>>> Not applicable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Goals for experimentation*
>>>>>> None 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Risks*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Interoperability and Compatibility*
>>>>>> Low. The API is additive, standardized, and already implemented by 
>>>>>> Firefox and Safari. Implementations may choose different underlying 
>>>>>> algorithms while preserving the standardized hint and fallback behavior 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping (
>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/167)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebKit*: Shipped/Shipping (
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/18)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are they shipping congestion control, or just WebTransport? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/interop/issues/1121) The 
>>>>>> Interop 2026 WebTransport proposal received 28 👍 reactions. Developers 
>>>>>> also reported active WebTransport use and significant cross-engine 
>>>>>> differences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ergonomics*
>>>>>> Low. The three values are straightforward, but developers must 
>>>>>> understand that the option is a hint and may resolve to "default" when 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> requested behavior is unavailable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Activation*
>>>>>> Low. This is an additive constructor option and attribute. The value 
>>>>>> is a preference rather than a guarantee, and unsupported preferences may 
>>>>>> fall back to "default".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Security*
>>>>>> Low. The API grants no new network access and does not expose 
>>>>>> congestion-window or network-state information. Applications provide 
>>>>>> only a 
>>>>>> high-level preference; the browser retains control of the selected 
>>>>>> algorithm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebView application risks*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such 
>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based 
>>>>>> applications? 
>>>>>> Low. This is an additive WebTransport option and attribute 
>>>>>> implemented in shared Blink and network-service code. Existing WebView 
>>>>>> applications are unaffected, and applications using the option must 
>>>>>> treat 
>>>>>> it as a preference that may fall back to "default". 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Debuggability*
>>>>>> The requested value is readable through 
>>>>>>  transport.congestionControl . Existing DevTools networking, NetLog, and 
>>>>>> QUIC logging can diagnose connection behavior 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, 
>>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?*
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?*
>>>>>> Yes 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webtransport/congestion-control.https.any.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Flag name on about://flags*
>>>>>> chrome://flags/#enable-experimental-web-platform-features 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Finch feature name*
>>>>>> WebTransportCongestionControl 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rollout plan*
>>>>>> Will ship enabled for all users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Requires code in //chrome?*
>>>>>> False
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Tracking bug*
>>>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/501268547
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Measurement*
>>>>>> Validate API exposure and connection behavior through WPT, Chromium 
>>>>>> tests, and developer feedback from latency-sensitive and high-throughput 
>>>>>> WebTransport applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Availability expectation*
>>>>>> Already supported by Firefox and Safari as part of the W3C 
>>>>>> WebTransport specification. Chromium support is implemented behind an 
>>>>>> experimental runtime feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Adoption expectation*
>>>>>> Expected to be adopted by games, interactive media, 
>>>>>> remote-interaction applications, and bulk-transfer services that need to 
>>>>>> express latency or throughput preferences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Adoption plan*
>>>>>> Adoption is expected to happen organically through existing 
>>>>>> WebTransport applications and documentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Estimated milestones*
>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 158 
>>>>>> DevTrial on desktop 150 
>>>>>> Shipping on Android 158 
>>>>>> DevTrial on Android 150 
>>>>>> Shipping on WebView 158 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Anticipated spec changes*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat 
>>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github 
>>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution 
>>>>>> may 
>>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way). 
>>>>>> None. The option and attribute are already defined by the W3C 
>>>>>> WebTransport specification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5180947573112832?gate=5529995941380096
>>>>>>
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