All works as expected now and it's made DragonFM a much better program

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 01:48:39PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion 
wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> // Ah I see what was tripping me up, the hidden things are at the top not
> // after the regular files/folders like in GUI clients. I'm unsure if I can
> // tweak that in the settings.conf or?
> i just added this for you. please pull master. there is now a new option in
> section folder "hiddenFirst".
> True = behave just bevore, list hidden files first
> False = ignore the first . in the name and just sort the files in order with
> the non hidden one. this value is the default.
> 
> i also renamed casesensitive to caseSensitive (capital s for sensitive, to
> match the other option names in camelcase)
> you need to add those to you settings file in section folder:
> caseSensitive=False
> hiddenFirst=False
> 
> // I need to test this on Arch and see if my isue with my laptop of not
> // being able to open files now is Solus specific or not, right
> // arrow/ctrl+M doesn't work to open up text files with the latest pull, it
> // does work with other files however and I do hav $editor set up properly.
> // Is this a Solus isue or something with my .bashrc setup?
> Just for your information, ctrl + M is the same like pressing return
> (similar to ctrl + h for backspace)
> but you are right, i see issue here as well. I broke it by accident while
> adding open with :). should be fixed now.
> 
> Cheers chrys
> 
> Am 11.04.22 um 10:54 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > Ah I see what was tripping me up, the hidden things are at the top not
> > after the regular files/folders like in GUI clients. I'm unsure if I can
> > tweak that in the settings.conf or?
> > 
> > I need to test this on Arch and see if my isue with my laptop of not
> > being able to open files now is Solus specific or not, right
> > arrow/ctrl+M doesn't work to open up text files with the latest pull, it
> > does work with other files however and I do hav $editor set up properly.
> > Is this a Solus isue or something with my .bashrc setup?
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 09:07:28AM +0200, Linux for blind general 
> > discussion wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > > I took a look at your problem. i cannot reproduce this here. I made some
> > > more improvements:
> > > 1. I rebound KEY_BACKSPACE to show / hide elements
> > > 2. i unbound the conflicting leave_entry command (it was double bound in 
> > > any
> > > way. Arrow left still invokes the same action)
> > > 3. toggle show / hide elements does now show an short message at the
> > > notification area to make clear what is actually the case.
> > > 4. Home ( Pos 1) and End keys does now work in input box (rename, open 
> > > with,
> > > location and any other dialog)
> > > all that is already in master.
> > > 
> > > i wrote a short summery at my blog:
> > > https://www.patreon.com/posts/64973610
> > > 
> > > enjoy.
> > > 
> > > cheers chrys
> > > Am 10.04.22 um 17:38 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > Howdy,
> > > > 
> > > > I will take a look at home.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > 
> > > > Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> > > > 
> > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 17:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > > <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I did.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I put a # before the existing ones and have it set as follows
> > > > > 
> > > > > KEY_BACKSPACE=toggle hidden
> > > > > 
> > > > > It shows success for every other command but that one however. I'm not
> > > > > sure if it's a distro issue with Solus however though but once i'm 
> > > > > back
> > > > > on my Arch box I can test it there though
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 05:22:41PM +0200, Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Strange i don't see this here.  Here it shows/ hides the folder / 
> > > > > > files as expected.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Did you rebind your keys already to something?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 16:37 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > I've got it saying toggle hidden, but none of the hidden files 
> > > > > > > showed up
> > > > > > > even after setting it right.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I made a .test.txt fie in ~/Documents and hit toggle hidden, with 
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > luck. The .test.txt doesn't show up nor do places like .config.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is that a Solus issue? I'm only running into this as my one big 
> > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > with DragonFM. I unbound Backspace from history and put it on show
> > > > > > > hidden instead so I can ctrl+H for hidden toggle
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 03:40:23PM +0200, Linux for blind 
> > > > > > > > general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A small tip for figure sequences for shortcuts. You can set 
> > > > > > > > input=True in debug section of the settings file. Any keypress 
> > > > > > > > prints its escape sequence ( and if it triggers an action)  
> > > > > > > > will then printed for a given amount of time in the first line 
> > > > > > > > on screen.
> > > > > > > > Its very noisy for you but just thought for debug and figure 
> > > > > > > > sequences. You can disable it then again.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > By the way, i forgot to answer how to unbind an action: just 
> > > > > > > > comment the line in settings file out wit an # as first 
> > > > > > > > character per line.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 14:57 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well, you can try, but i don’t  think there is an escape 
> > > > > > > > > sequence for ctrl + backspace.  I don’t think there is any 
> > > > > > > > > escape sequence for modifier key + backspace  combination 
> > > > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have to say, this concept is an dinosaur that should be 
> > > > > > > > > rethought in the 21 century.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 14:29 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So wouldd^and then backspace change that to ctrl+backspace 
> > > > > > > > > > change that
> > > > > > > > > > so control and backspace works for that and ctrl+h does 
> > > > > > > > > > hidden files or?
> > > > > > > > > > Or do I need to do something like '' to tell DragonFM that 
> > > > > > > > > > there's no
> > > > > > > > > > key bound for that function or do I just leave that blank? 
> > > > > > > > > > I can
> > > > > > > > > > probably find something to rebind it to but I'm thinking 
> > > > > > > > > > just unbindd
> > > > > > > > > > the backspace key?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 02:15:55PM +0200, Linux for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Well to explain what you see, you need to understand how 
> > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts on an command line application work.
> > > > > > > > > > > The commandline reads any input from STDIN. This is also 
> > > > > > > > > > > valid for shortcuts. The operating system translates some 
> > > > > > > > > > > (not all, depending on terminal capabilities) input to a 
> > > > > > > > > > > sequence of ascii codes. This sequences are sent to STDIN 
> > > > > > > > > > > then.This series starts with an special ascii character, 
> > > > > > > > > > > the Escape code. This is why this sequences are named 
> > > > > > > > > > > escape sequences. How many escape sequences are 
> > > > > > > > > > > „translated“ or „understand“ depends on the used terminal 
> > > > > > > > > > > standard (TTY uses as far as i know VT100 standard, 
> > > > > > > > > > > correct me if i m wrong, terminal emulators can often 
> > > > > > > > > > > emulate various kind of standards, depending on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > emulator and configuration).
> > > > > > > > > > > The issue you see here is the fact that some of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > escape  sequences do not have a printable representation. 
> > > > > > > > > > > For this there are various cases where printable 
> > > > > > > > > > > sequences defined for the non printable representation. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Long thing short: in your case, Ctrl + h is the printable 
> > > > > > > > > > > ascii representation of backspace. So an command line 
> > > > > > > > > > > application can not mate a difference between ctrl + h 
> > > > > > > > > > > and backspace at all ( so its a limitation of the deeper 
> > > > > > > > > > > level of terminal and operating system, not an issue of 
> > > > > > > > > > > dragonFM)
> > > > > > > > > > > You can see this in plain bash, vim or nano as well (and 
> > > > > > > > > > > any oder commandline application)l, type something, press 
> > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + h, it behaves like backspace and will delete the 
> > > > > > > > > > > character left to the cursor.
> > > > > > > > > > > See here for a list of (some?) of those „duplicates“.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.bpxa400/ks1.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > But like noted, this depends heavily on the Terminal.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry my friend, there is not much i can do here.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > What can we do now?
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can do is choosing what is more important 
> > > > > > > > > > > for you and rebind backspace „KEY_BACKSPACE“ (what is 
> > > > > > > > > > > currently bound to leave entry, wo moves to parent 
> > > > > > > > > > > folder) to toggle hidden (and unbind or rebind leave 
> > > > > > > > > > > entry then ) or use another shortcut for hidden.
> > > > > > > > > > > See here in settings:
> > > > > > > > > > > KEY_BACKSPACE=leave_entry
> > > > > > > > > > > …
> > > > > > > > > > > ^[H=toggle_hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 11:52 schrieb Linux for blind 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > So quick question Chrys...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to have history switched to ctrl+H on my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > copy of Dragonfm, to
> > > > > > > > > > > > line up more with how Nautilus/Caja does it. However 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that shortcut seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > hardcoded in with no way to change it in the config 
> > > > > > > > > > > > file. I'm trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > fix it since alt+H brings up a terminal's help menu and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like ctrl+H
> > > > > > > > > > > > to show/hide hidden files since that's a common enough 
> > > > > > > > > > > > shortcut on
> > > > > > > > > > > > desktop file managers so why not have it in DragonFM?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So where do I need to look to switch the function of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+H in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > program? Currently it brings up the location bar, page 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1/2 and doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > show or hide hidden folders, instead going back one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > step despite not
> > > > > > > > > > > > being defined as such in the config settings
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
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