Howdy,

Do i understand correctly, you wanna hire me to develop a command line browser? 

its a good amount of work but very doable utilizing a modern browser engine.

Well i could definitely do this. 
If you are serious, you can contact me per mail if there is something concrete:
chrys (at) linux-a11y.org

I‘m a kind of a daywalker. I‘m not blind by my own. My girlfriend and a lot of 
friends are. So i know very well whats needed to make pseudo UIs for command 
line optimized for screenreader. I created my own screen reader (fenrir in just 
a couple of weeks and learned a lot while doing that. All That makes me really 
efficient working on accessibility related software and was also the reason why 
i was hired by F123 at its time.

My December project was completely reworking OCRdesktop ( if you know that). In 
the last couple of months i continue working on orca for an plugin  driven 
architecture. I also added an OCR plugin for testing ;). Quite basic right now 
but fully functional. Currently i concentrate on rework orcas settings handling 
to be decentral for the plugin architecture. Thats really a chal  and takes a 
couple of month (a lot of work needed and i do it mostly in my spare time, so i 
have to pay my bills first ;), but once complete,we can remove a lot of 
smelling old code after that )

Cheers chrys

> Am 13.04.2022 um 18:39 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
> <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> I'm mostly sure Google's foisitng standard view on everyone nowadays, they 
> are supposed to be nixing third party stuff in May or June however so...
> 
> And yes. I too want that text mode browser. I think we need to figure out a 
> way to pool resources and grab Chrys87 on Github and go here, can you make 
> this, we've got X amount of resources, money, food, beer, coffeee, cats, etc, 
> so how much do you need to make it? I mean. I want that text mode browser. 
> There's bits and pieces in existing browsers, yes but nobody's ever packaged 
> them all together.
> 
> The reason I said Chrys is because....1. I'm half expecting Chrys to leap in 
> here and go you want me to do what? But the bigger reason is, well, look at 
> DragonFM, it shows that you can have a console file manager with desktop like 
> shortcuts that does all the functionality of something like Caja or Nautlius, 
> but in a terminal, with standard keyboard shortcuts.
> 
> Now if that browser got made, and I could ditch FF, I probably would. 
> No...Brow.sh isn't a suitable replacement, not by a long shot. I can rig up 
> startx to do Orca+Firefox, sure, but....
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:30:18PM +0000, Linux for blind general discussion 
>> wrote:
>> I think the most important things to remember here are that:
>> 
>> 1. People are different and that's okay.
>> 
>> 2. Blind people are just as diverse as people in general.
>> 
>> At the end of the day, debating Mutt versus Thunderbird has about as
>> much impact as debating Coke versus Pepsi. Hardcore fans of either
>> aren't likely to change their mind for any reason, there's no way of
>> doing an objective comparison, and just as how which cola is better
>> comes down to the individual's tastebuds, which e-mail client is
>> easier to setup and use ultimately comes down to which software
>> idiosyncrasies the end user is more comfortable with.
>> 
>> Though, for what it's worth, just as I'm not a fan of colas and much
>> prefer Dr. Pepper when it comes to caramel colored fizzy drinks, I'm
>> not a fan of e-mail clients and prefer to just use my e-mail's web
>> interface... and the last time I checked my e-mail on a machine other
>> than my personal one, doing so was as simple as launching Firefox,
>> typing gmail.google.com into the address bar, entering my e-mail
>> address and password, and then once logged in, I just used what of
>> NVDA's navigational hotkeys matched Orca's to check level 3 headings
>> for how many unread messages were in my inbox and spam, and jump to
>> the checkbox on the first message in the message list... Granted, that
>> was years ago, so its entirely possible paranoid security on Google's
>> part would make logging in difficult, and they might try forcing me to
>> use their bogged down with JavaScript standard view instead of
>> respecting my preference for the HTML view.
>> 
>> Granted, the only time I've ever used an e-mail client was theGmail
>> app on android 2.2 back when I still had a working eyeball, so I
>> suspect I'd find both Mutt and Thunderbird perplexing if I ever gave
>> them a try, and the only things I know about SMTP, pop3, and imap is
>> the first stands for simple mail transfer protocol and they all have
>> something to do with the technical details of e-mail most people are
>> ignorant of... Though, I'd probably give Mutt or Alpine a try befor
>> Thunderbird or whatever Chromium's companion e-mail client is called
>> if only because my setup doesn't really let me run GUI applications
>> other than Firefox.
>> 
>> And while I agree the massive overlap in key bindings makes switching
>> between GUI applications easy, and its great that Micro exists for
>> those wanting to reduce their GUI dependence without having to learn
>> an editor with key bindings that predate standardization, I must
>> confess that I'm so used to nano's key bindings that I wish I could
>> make Firefox switch over to nano-like bindings when I focuse a
>> multi-line textbox and the only modern convention I miss when typing
>> in nano is the ability to select text by holding shift and using
>> arrow/navigation keys...
>> 
>> Honestly, the application I most want that doesn't seem to exist would
>> probably be a text-mode web browser that:
>> 
>> 1. Arrow and navigation keys move around the page like in an editor.
>> 
>> 2. Has Firefox-like keybindings for all the common web browser functions.
>> 
>> 3. Has Orca-like keybindings for page navigation.
>> 
>> 4. Has a browse/focus mode toggle equivalent to Orca+A.
>> 
>> 5. Forces pages with multi-column layouts into single column for
>> presentation(or at least as the option to)... This is to avoid
>> situations where a console screen reader tries to interleave text from
>> a list of links in the left column with the page's main content in the
>> center/right column.
>> 
>> 6. Supports the functional aspects of JavaScript, HTML5, etc. while
>> ignoring the eyecandy aspects.
>> 
>> 7. Disables rich web content by default, but has a keyboard shortcut
>> to activate it for the current page and a menu for fine tuning which
>> rich content is allowed, and whether the allowance is temporary or
>> permanent(essentially providing No-Script-like functionality).
>> 
>> 8. embeds nano(or the text-mode text editor of the user's choice)
>> within focused textboxes(so, if I wanted to post the contents of a
>> file on my hard drive via a web form, instead of opening a second tab,
>> navigating to the file on my system, and copy and pasting it into the
>> form, I could just go into thetext box, get an embedded nano window,
>> and use Nano's insert from another file command... and if there's
>> multiple files, I could just do that repeatedly... and unlike with
>> Firefox's address bar, I'd have tab completion for getting the path to
>> the file).
>> 
>> 9. The ability to import bookmarks, saved passwords, etc. from a
>> Firefox(and other popular browsers) profile would be a nice bonus,
>> especially if it was done via a supplementary package that could be
>> removed after migrating.
>> 
>> There are probably other features I'd want in my dream text-mode web
>> browser, but something that provides a remotely similar browsing
>> experience to Firefox+Orca would be amazing and would probably be
>> enough to make me ditch the GUI altogether... though I confess, a
>> simple means of launching arbitrary GUI applications in a kiosk-like
>> manner with Orca would be nice for those rare occasions I'm curious to
>> give a GUI application a try... sadly, maintaining a full desktop is
>> over kill with how much I live in the GUI, and the script I use to
>> launch Firefox with Orca suffers from crippling overspecialization and
>> its someone else's work that I don't begin to understand how to adapt
>> to applications beyond the handful it was designed for.
>> 
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