Howdy, Do i understand correctly, you wanna hire me to develop a command line browser?
its a good amount of work but very doable utilizing a modern browser engine. Well i could definitely do this. If you are serious, you can contact me per mail if there is something concrete: chrys (at) linux-a11y.org I‘m a kind of a daywalker. I‘m not blind by my own. My girlfriend and a lot of friends are. So i know very well whats needed to make pseudo UIs for command line optimized for screenreader. I created my own screen reader (fenrir in just a couple of weeks and learned a lot while doing that. All That makes me really efficient working on accessibility related software and was also the reason why i was hired by F123 at its time. My December project was completely reworking OCRdesktop ( if you know that). In the last couple of months i continue working on orca for an plugin driven architecture. I also added an OCR plugin for testing ;). Quite basic right now but fully functional. Currently i concentrate on rework orcas settings handling to be decentral for the plugin architecture. Thats really a chal and takes a couple of month (a lot of work needed and i do it mostly in my spare time, so i have to pay my bills first ;), but once complete,we can remove a lot of smelling old code after that ) Cheers chrys > Am 13.04.2022 um 18:39 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion > <blinux-list@redhat.com>: > > I'm mostly sure Google's foisitng standard view on everyone nowadays, they > are supposed to be nixing third party stuff in May or June however so... > > And yes. I too want that text mode browser. I think we need to figure out a > way to pool resources and grab Chrys87 on Github and go here, can you make > this, we've got X amount of resources, money, food, beer, coffeee, cats, etc, > so how much do you need to make it? I mean. I want that text mode browser. > There's bits and pieces in existing browsers, yes but nobody's ever packaged > them all together. > > The reason I said Chrys is because....1. I'm half expecting Chrys to leap in > here and go you want me to do what? But the bigger reason is, well, look at > DragonFM, it shows that you can have a console file manager with desktop like > shortcuts that does all the functionality of something like Caja or Nautlius, > but in a terminal, with standard keyboard shortcuts. > > Now if that browser got made, and I could ditch FF, I probably would. > No...Brow.sh isn't a suitable replacement, not by a long shot. I can rig up > startx to do Orca+Firefox, sure, but.... > >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:30:18PM +0000, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >> I think the most important things to remember here are that: >> >> 1. People are different and that's okay. >> >> 2. Blind people are just as diverse as people in general. >> >> At the end of the day, debating Mutt versus Thunderbird has about as >> much impact as debating Coke versus Pepsi. Hardcore fans of either >> aren't likely to change their mind for any reason, there's no way of >> doing an objective comparison, and just as how which cola is better >> comes down to the individual's tastebuds, which e-mail client is >> easier to setup and use ultimately comes down to which software >> idiosyncrasies the end user is more comfortable with. >> >> Though, for what it's worth, just as I'm not a fan of colas and much >> prefer Dr. Pepper when it comes to caramel colored fizzy drinks, I'm >> not a fan of e-mail clients and prefer to just use my e-mail's web >> interface... and the last time I checked my e-mail on a machine other >> than my personal one, doing so was as simple as launching Firefox, >> typing gmail.google.com into the address bar, entering my e-mail >> address and password, and then once logged in, I just used what of >> NVDA's navigational hotkeys matched Orca's to check level 3 headings >> for how many unread messages were in my inbox and spam, and jump to >> the checkbox on the first message in the message list... Granted, that >> was years ago, so its entirely possible paranoid security on Google's >> part would make logging in difficult, and they might try forcing me to >> use their bogged down with JavaScript standard view instead of >> respecting my preference for the HTML view. >> >> Granted, the only time I've ever used an e-mail client was theGmail >> app on android 2.2 back when I still had a working eyeball, so I >> suspect I'd find both Mutt and Thunderbird perplexing if I ever gave >> them a try, and the only things I know about SMTP, pop3, and imap is >> the first stands for simple mail transfer protocol and they all have >> something to do with the technical details of e-mail most people are >> ignorant of... Though, I'd probably give Mutt or Alpine a try befor >> Thunderbird or whatever Chromium's companion e-mail client is called >> if only because my setup doesn't really let me run GUI applications >> other than Firefox. >> >> And while I agree the massive overlap in key bindings makes switching >> between GUI applications easy, and its great that Micro exists for >> those wanting to reduce their GUI dependence without having to learn >> an editor with key bindings that predate standardization, I must >> confess that I'm so used to nano's key bindings that I wish I could >> make Firefox switch over to nano-like bindings when I focuse a >> multi-line textbox and the only modern convention I miss when typing >> in nano is the ability to select text by holding shift and using >> arrow/navigation keys... >> >> Honestly, the application I most want that doesn't seem to exist would >> probably be a text-mode web browser that: >> >> 1. Arrow and navigation keys move around the page like in an editor. >> >> 2. Has Firefox-like keybindings for all the common web browser functions. >> >> 3. Has Orca-like keybindings for page navigation. >> >> 4. Has a browse/focus mode toggle equivalent to Orca+A. >> >> 5. Forces pages with multi-column layouts into single column for >> presentation(or at least as the option to)... This is to avoid >> situations where a console screen reader tries to interleave text from >> a list of links in the left column with the page's main content in the >> center/right column. >> >> 6. Supports the functional aspects of JavaScript, HTML5, etc. while >> ignoring the eyecandy aspects. >> >> 7. Disables rich web content by default, but has a keyboard shortcut >> to activate it for the current page and a menu for fine tuning which >> rich content is allowed, and whether the allowance is temporary or >> permanent(essentially providing No-Script-like functionality). >> >> 8. embeds nano(or the text-mode text editor of the user's choice) >> within focused textboxes(so, if I wanted to post the contents of a >> file on my hard drive via a web form, instead of opening a second tab, >> navigating to the file on my system, and copy and pasting it into the >> form, I could just go into thetext box, get an embedded nano window, >> and use Nano's insert from another file command... and if there's >> multiple files, I could just do that repeatedly... and unlike with >> Firefox's address bar, I'd have tab completion for getting the path to >> the file). >> >> 9. The ability to import bookmarks, saved passwords, etc. from a >> Firefox(and other popular browsers) profile would be a nice bonus, >> especially if it was done via a supplementary package that could be >> removed after migrating. >> >> There are probably other features I'd want in my dream text-mode web >> browser, but something that provides a remotely similar browsing >> experience to Firefox+Orca would be amazing and would probably be >> enough to make me ditch the GUI altogether... though I confess, a >> simple means of launching arbitrary GUI applications in a kiosk-like >> manner with Orca would be nice for those rare occasions I'm curious to >> give a GUI application a try... sadly, maintaining a full desktop is >> over kill with how much I live in the GUI, and the script I use to >> launch Firefox with Orca suffers from crippling overspecialization and >> its someone else's work that I don't begin to understand how to adapt >> to applications beyond the handful it was designed for. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
