there are probably also several other screen reader, options for the 
consul/terminal. When did I have found most useful is BRLTTY. It’s probably one 
of the oldest of the lot and it still works. Now, as for the graphical user 
interface, I’ve been in the habit of actually starting up in Consol mode first 
and then running STARTX. It’s easy it’s simple and you don’t have to worry 
about a display manager. A also, you don’t have to worry about a bunch of 
additional apps you may never use when running the display manager. So choose 
whichever desktop you want, which ever apps you want, and install those by 
whatever method is called for in your version of Linux.

Eric.


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> On Apr 27, 2023, at 07:39, Linux for blind general discussion 
> <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> I find lightdm with lightdm-slick-greeter to be about the best display 
> manager option. You should be able to start orca using alt+super+s from the 
> display manager's window.
> 
> 
> Fenrir is probably the most comprehensive fully userspace screen reader for 
> text mode TTYs and terminals, meaning that it doesn't live in the kernel, 
> although Orca works pretty well in mate-terminal. Personally though, I find 
> that desktop web browsers and email applications work much better than their 
> terminal counterparts, including being easier to set up, easier to navigate 
> by various elements such as headers or links, and especially for browsers, 
> supporting many more websites in a more accessible way. Just as an example of 
> this, I have been able to access online banking through Firefox for coming up 
> on 20 years, but none of the terminal-based browsers have ever allowed me to 
> log into any bank's website, and many won't even show the login page 
> correctly, not even in 2023.
> 
> ~Kyle
> 
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