Hi,

Can you tell me where I can find the MLA draft work (draft) as its not
on the Bliss status pages? 

Thanks
Chuck Chaney 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of ext Shida Schubert
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [BLISS] Minutes from MLA meeting:08.02.12
> 
> 
>  I have attached the minutes from MLA design team meeting
> we had on Tuesday.
> 
> Date/Time:
> -------------------------------------------------
> 2008.02.12 08:00-09:00 PST
> 
> Attendees:
> -------------------------------------------------
> Alan Johnston
> Andy Hutton
> Bill Mitchell
> Derek McDonald
> Martin Dolly
> Michael Proctor
> Raj Jain
> Shida Schubert
> 
> Agenda:
> -------------------------------------------------
> 1. Consultation Hold
> 2. State reconciliation
> 3. Race-conditions
> 4. Interop with normal UA
> 5. Action Items
> 6. Next Meeting
> 
> Discussion:
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> *1. Consultation Hold/Call **********************
> 
> - Wants to avoid allocation of another appearance or
>  seizing of appearance when doing a consultation hold/call
>  on dialog that has appearance number assigned. Rather
>  want to re-use the already assigned appearance.
> 
> - Questions: 2 calls are associated with the appearance?
>   >> Yes.
> 
> - I think the requirement is to have appearance within
>  an appearance.
>   >> If the UA is capable managing appearance on its own,
>      it's not a problem. Don't see it impacts the draft.
> 
> - Having the ability of a UA to change the dialog associated with
>  an appearance it has been assigned, would it be the requirement that
>  would address this?
>   >> No comment
> 
> - It's a single line sharing, and it has nothing to do
>  with multiple appearance.
> 
> - May be text needs to be added on how single line
>  sharing needs no further extension.
> 
> - Andy will re-attempt to address the use-cases, which
>  will show how it affects the multiple appearances.
> 
> *2. Race Condition **********************************
> - Debate about the INVITE Join race condition.
>  >> Alan will look at the case where conference
>   bridge is in the picture.
> 
> - What to do if an entity doesn't support INVITE/Replaces?
>  >> If Replaces is not supported use 3PCC.
>  >> Debate about the complexity.
>  >> Alan expressed he wants to look at Join instead of
>    Replaces.
>  >> Debate, many disinclined to look further.
>  Conclusion: Will mandate far end (Carol) to support Replaces,
>     and tackle the race condition when using Replaces
>     on the list.
> 
> *3. State Reconcilliation ****************************
> 
> - Discussion about adding a new requirement.
>   Should be able to allow the appearance agent to
>   assign an alternate appearance if appearance requested
>   is not available.
> - Following appearance assignment request comes to mind.
>   >> Give me any
>   >> Give me the one requested, if not available, you pick.
>   >> Give me the one requested or nothing.
>   >> Give me appearance within the range(1-5 etc).
> - Seems to need more flexibility than simple range.
>  >> SUBSCRIBE + filter ?
> - No one opposed to the requirement.
> - Do we want single mechanism to support all of them?
>  - Many agreed. >> Need to see if it's possible.
> 
> *4. Use of term proxy in the draft. *******************
> - Proxy in the draft is asked to more than RFC 3261, if additional
>  functionality is necessary, AA should be the one to take on.
> - What to do about UA that supports all the primitives but doesn't
>  understand the appearance number.
>  >> No conclusion.
> - Section 7 has many open issues, need to read and discuss.
> 
> *5. Action Items **************************************
> 1) Andy will submit another use-case about consultation-hold/call
>   in conjunction with multiple appearance.
> 2) Alan will look at the race-condition when conference bridge
>   is in the picture and submit comments to the list.
> 3) Text needs to be added about mandating far end to support
>   Replaces or call take/pickup will fail
> 4) Continue the discussion about the race conditions on the list.
> 5) New requirement about appearance assignment needs to be
>   considered and added to the draft.
> 6) Single solution to address all 4 cases of appearance assignment
>   should be contemplated.
> 7) Clarification of term proxy in the draft needs to be
>   clarified or restated(the draft imposes more than RFC 3261).
> 8) Everybody reads section 7 and comment.
> 9) Alan will update the draft before next week's call.
> 
> *6. Next Meeting **************************************
> Feb 19th, 08:00-09:00 PST.
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