Paul,

Yes, that's an interesting one. In fact, we could have a condition
"ignore" or "silent reject", which basically means don't send an
immediate response to the caller (let him think it is alerting). Then it
will depend on ACH at the proxy whether that later gets forwarded to
voicemail or simply times out.

John 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 April 2008 22:22
> To: Elwell, John
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BLISS] Rejection conditions for ACH
> 
> this seems fine to me. I am wondering about the case where the callee 
> wants to hide the true reason from the caller. Does that have to be 
> encoded as well? Or is that policy decide upstream?
> 
> E.g. John calls me. I don't want to talk to him right now, 
> but I don't 
> want him to know that. I would really like him to get the same user 
> experience as if I was not present - typically ring a few 
> times and then 
> fail over to voicemail - which is different than if I bounce 
> him to VM 
> immediately.
> 
>       Paul
> 
> Elwell, John wrote:
> > During BLISS ACH (automatic call handling) design team 
> discussions at
> > the last conference call a provisional set of rejection 
> conditions was
> > identified for which appropriate SIP response codes need to be
> > identified. Only conditions typically expected to influence ACH at a
> > proxy are included. The conditions need to be agreed before 
> attempting
> > to select response codes. The following conditions have 
> been identified:
> > 
> >           <t>Busy. UA resources are busy as a result of 
> another call and
> > further calls cannot be accepted until resources become free. The
> > condition may also be visible via a presence system.</t>
> >           <t>Do not disturb. The user has indicated in advance an
> > unwillingness to receive calls and therefore calls cannot 
> be accepted
> > until the user indicates that the condition has been 
> lifted. A user may
> > impose such a condition during a meeting or while working 
> on a critical
> > task. The user may indicate in advance a time at which she 
> expects the
> > condition to be lifted. The condition may also be visible 
> via a presence
> > system.</t>
> >           <t>Local rejection. The user has responded to this call by
> > rejecting it. Whether this impacts other branches (e.g., other UAs
> > registered for that AoR), forwarding to voicemail, forwarding to an
> > assistant, etc. depends on the proxy configuration. A user would use
> > this facility when not in a position to answer a particular 
> call or when
> > she feels that it would be better handled elsewhere (e.g., 
> by voicemail,
> > by an assistant). The fate of the call will depend on proxy ACH
> > settings.</t>
> >           <t>Global rejection. The user has responded to 
> this call by
> > rejecting it with the preference that all other branches should be
> > cancelled and forwarding to voicemail, forwarding to an 
> assistant, etc.
> > should not take place. A user would use this facility when she is
> > unwilling to handle a particular call and does not wish it 
> to be handled
> > elsewhere. A user would typically use this facility for unwanted
> > traffic. The fate of the call will depend on proxy ACH settings, but
> > typically it will result in outright rejection.</t>
> > 
> > Please comment on this set of conditions.
> > 
> > John
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