Dale and Shida, Just to clarify this concern (and not debate how BLISS is handling design teams) - per IETF WG process, it is actually okay to have a closed design team - per section 6.5 of RFC 2418, stated as: "In order for a design team to remain small and agile, it is acceptable to have closed membership and private meetings." The issue being that with open design teams folks can come and go as they desire, but this can result in a lot of inefficiency in bringing new attendees up to speed on conference calls for example. And, based on team efficiency studies, around 7 contributors is considered optimal and allows everyone to contribute, which is the intent for design team members. With too many folks , it's hard to stay focused AND to allow everyone to provide input.
The key is that nothing done by design teams is binding and it all MUST go through normal WG process to gain approval, etc. Regards, Mary. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shida Schubert Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:17 PM To: Worley, Dale (BL60:9D30) Cc: BLISS Subject: Re: [BLISS] Bliss design group mailing lists Hi Dale; I will attend to this before the next IETF.. Many thanks for bringing this up and there was never an intention to keep any of this secret Regards Shida On 12-Feb-09, at 8:12 AM, Dale Worley wrote: > As far as I can tell, there are no publicly-visible pointers to the > Bliss design group mailing lists, or to the design groups themselves. > Relative to the concept that IETF participation is open to all, I > think that this is a serious deficiency, and we should add appropriate > pointers from the IETF Bliss WG page > (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/bliss-charter.html) to the secret > Bliss WG page (http://bliss-ietf.org/) and from that page to the > design group pages > (http://bliss-ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccbs_bliss-ietf.org > , > etc.). > > Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > BLISS mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss _______________________________________________ BLISS mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss _______________________________________________ BLISS mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss
