"Big Buffers Bad. Small Buffers Good." "*Some* packet loss is essential for the correct operation of the Internet"
are two of the memes I try to propagate, in their simplicity. Even then there are so many qualifiers to both of those that the core message gets lost. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Dave Hart <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 17:05 UTC, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote: >> Not bad, although I can live without the title. Coins a new-ish phrase >> "insertion latency" >> >> http://www.networkcomputing.com/end-to-end-apm/bufferbloat-and-the-collapse-of-the-internet.php > > The piece ends with a paragraph claiming preventing packet loss is > addressing a more fundamental problem which contributes to > bufferbloat. As long as the writer and readers believe packet loss is > an unmitigated evil, the battle is lost. More encouraging would have > been a statement that packet loss is preferable to excessive queueing > and a required TCP feedback signal when ECN isn't in play. > > Cheers, > Dave Hart > -- Dave Täht SKYPE: davetaht US Tel: 1-239-829-5608 http://the-edge.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
