this is a FYI. ISOC says they are full for 2013. If someone can think of another entity to coordinate, and take some of the *outreach* load off of JG, DT, and friends, name it..
On May 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Michael Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > Welcome to the IESG, Spencer. > > I am putting my <operator> hat on as <[email protected]>. > Novavision is a boutique business ISP in Montreal, Quebec has fiber in a > number of industrial parks. I'm the network architect and director of R&D. > We have serious bufferbloat issues that prevent us from deploying the > kind of service we want. In many cases I control both ends of the > layer-3, and I could deploy whatever I want. If only I could train the > sales engineers of my vendors... > Awhile ago I suggested to Dan York that ISOC should consider adding > bufferbloat to it's Deploy360-ish efforts. A key thing for me around > bufferbloat is: > a) convincing companies that it's real. A video hosted by > Vint or Bob Kahn, aimed at semi-technical CTOs would help. > > b) having convinced them that it's real, I need to find out what > they are doing about it, and what work arounds they might have. > > I suggest a well curated wiki for (b), with encouragement for > vendors to link directly to their "knowledge bases", etc. > > c) some point of contact for bufferbloat issues... > This would have to start with some kind of IETF led attempt to > actually find out who at various companies might be in charge > of figuring who is in charge of figuring out what the contact would > be. > > Some small vendor specific background. Novavision is a Juniper partner. > I explained that I couldn't buy a product until I had some clear > statements about bufferbloat plans from the sales engineer. I tried to get > the SE some contacts... I used various contacts I had @juniper.net, but > they came up blank. They didn't know how to address this question > either. I think that this is a industry wide problem. > _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
