Hi Bob,
On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:28 , Bob Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > Alex, > > At 09:31 25/02/2015, Alex Elsayed wrote: >> It was less a criticism of your work itself, and more pointing out that Bob >> Briscoe was applying research on symmetric paths to asymmetric paths without >> questioning the applicability of its conclusions. > > Mea culpa. > Just one ambiguous inference and the whole list explodes! > > When I said "The paper convinced me that ARED is good enough (in the paper's > simulations it was often better than PIE or CoDel)," > > I didn't mean 'good enough to go ahead and deploy'. Don't worry we're testing > out ARED. I meant good enough to make it the centre of my attention. (I did > say "consider deploying" later in the sentence). > > Our ARED testing is focusing on whether there are any pathologies, rather > than whether it is slightly better or worse than the perfect solution X that > will takes a decade to make any difference to the majority. > > It's interesting that no-one picked up on the sentence "This could reduce > deployment completion time from decades to a few months." > I take that as a symptom that the bufferbloat list is mainly populated by > implementers. If there's a nail that can't be hit with the implementation > hammer, it seems it's not an interesting nail, even if it's an extremely > important nail. My understanding was that your idea “any AQM is better than none” is the consensus; the promise of actual deployment on existing hardware is really interesting. Especially when one considers how much real world data this could produce to compare other implementations against. Also I would not be amazed if a deployment the size of BT might do, can move manufacturers to increase their interest in better AQM solutions to differentiate their products (but I guess that is dreaming ;) ) Best Regards Sebastian > > > > Bob > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Bob Briscoe, BT > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
