On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Sebastian Moeller <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi jb, > > > On May 23, 2015, at 03:56 , jb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I can add error bars to the combined columns. I think that will help. > > This is quite helpful, what exactly are the “error bars” showing?
I am loving seeing the error bars. The general public won't understand them but a ton of other people do, and I can live with that. and loving being able to click on the bars for more detail. Aside from wanting: A) the grade center/top as per the mockup. B) some more apparent indicator of the detailed graphs available (like rotating between them on initial view) C) the bloat tach front and center during the test D) the different number of flows tests NOT broken up by "technology" but by extremity, and calling out wifi VERY explicitly (I can do a mock up of this if my prior description was not good enough) E) World Peace I'm pretty happy with this (and just in awe of how much work is required to deploy a web browser based application) >I would vote for 2 and 98 percent qantiles. I think these are max and min, unfiltered. There are not enough samples in the default test (1/sec) to get higher resolution (although I run the hires bloat test and would certainly prefer that a minimum of 100ms sampling rate was used for all - 20ms would be better). But 2 and 98 if possible would be better than max/min, (with sufficient samples). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-number_summary is fun because it depends on a normally distributed model, which this stuff isn't. (I'd like to see this for flent, also) I would like to see the algorithm(s) for this documented sufficiently somewhere... (and to finish duplicating the work in flent) >I note that I have seen several times that both error bars (low and high) of >the idle category seems to be displayed above the bar, like levitating above >the bar. Could be display error on my end, but I guess the bars show something >meaningful and I just do not know how to parse it correctly… > > Best Regards > Sebastian > >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, 21 May 2015, Jim Gettys wrote: >> >> Providing separate grades for upload and download does not make sense to >> me, as interference with acks in the other direction badly hurts that >> traffic. Uploads and downloads are *not* independent variables. >> >> KISS: one grade.... >> - Jim >> >> yes and no. >> >> If I am getting a bad grade, will replacing my local router help? or is all >> the problem on the ISPs equipment? >> >> having upload getting an A+ due to running good, debloated systems locally, >> but the download getting a F due to the ISP buffering would be meaningful. >> >> David Lang >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- Dave Täht Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
