I'd like to take the time to read this. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/790270/HCSEC_OversightBoardReport-2019.pdf
but I'm putting on a concert at 9. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:32 AM David P. Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > > Look, the existence of security flaws in software isn't news. Real news would > be if there were systems discovered to have no flaws at all... > > > > So what does this article really say? > > > > It says that Britain and the US intelligence officials are now going after > Huawei in a new way, because the idea that Huawei just steals intellectual > property no longer flies - they actually have great technology that the > non-Chinese never had. > > > > And there is a massive Trade War currently aimed between Trump and China. > > > > And recently, the UK, including GCHQ, said it was NOT going to stop plans to > deploy Huawei telecom gear, because it saw no particular flaws worth worrying > about if UK operators wanted to use Huawei "5G" gear because it was better > and cheaper. > > > > You can see, of course, that the US diplomatic efforts under Pompeo might go > into high gear to get some kind of supportive public response from somewhere > in the UK, even if the UK government itself wasn't going to support the US. > > > > Hence, the PR guys figured out how to get a story into the NYTimes and other > papers that appears to contradict the UK decision. > > > > This is how the game is played. > > > > This is how Trade Wars are conducted (we haven't seen them for decades, so we > aren't used to them, but we had the big fearmongering about Japan back in the > '80's that was similar, and the Japanese "lead" with its "Fifth Generation > Computing" effort required major tax dollars to protect the US from becoming > a third world country) > > > > Humans don't think. They react emotionally, and tribally. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:16pm > To: "David P. Reed" <[email protected]> > Cc: "cerowrt-devel" <[email protected]>, "bloat" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] plenty of huawei in the news today > > Well, it's a widely placed story in every newspaper. > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM David P. Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The NYTimes has become a mouthpiece for those who want to see China as the > > new evil empire. Recent pieces by David Sanger have hyped the idea that the > > US has a "5G Gap" and that China (Huawei) will threaten to conquer the > > world with 5G superiority, so we should be vigilantly opposing Huawei. > > > > > > > > Worth noting that Cisco, ALU, ... are not any better than Huawei appears to > > be in these matters. But they aren't getting headlines in the NYTimes. > > > > > > > > Remember, Judith Miller wrote NYTimes headlines based on "leaks from senior > > intelligence officials" that Saddam Hussein was on the verge of deploying > > dirty bombs, nuclear missiles and biowarfare agents. > > > > > > > > Recently, Bloomberg got scammed by "leaks from senior intelligence > > officials" that Supermicro (Chinese) had built and sold server motherboards > > that had special chips soldered into them that didn't belong there [the > > stories were completely debunked by the companies supposedly targeted]. > > > > > > > > Personally, I think the cynical fearmongering here does the legitimate > > security engineering community no good at all. It's just more "wag the dog" > > psyops, designed to let all the pseudo-security-experts take over the story > > and get their 15 minutes in the headlines. > > > > > > > > The Qualcomms and Ciscos of the US are happy to get the USG to help scare > > countries off of Chinese brandnames. But the open secret is that Qualcomm > > and Cisco's systems are designed and made in China, too. There's no US > > manufacturing of switches, and precious few entirely American hardware > > design centers, either. > > > > > > > > So be a little skeptical. Check the story behind the story. Don't believe > > stories based on "intelligence agency" leaks. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:55pm > > To: "cerowrt-devel" <[email protected]>, "bloat" > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] plenty of huawei in the news today > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/technology/huawei-security-british-report.html > > > > -- > > > > Dave Täht > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > http://www.teklibre.com > > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > > _______________________________________________ > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > > > > -- > > Dave Täht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 -- Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740 _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
