Hi Dave,

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 17:32, Dave Taht via Bloat <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> It's not clear if they are only measuring downloads in fig 4. ?
> 
> https://vaibhavbajpai.com/documents/papers/proceedings/fcc-networking-2022.pdf

indeed:

"The SamKnows probes measure a variety of broadband met- rics [22] over IPv4. 
The tests [22] covered in this paper include: multi-threaded download speed, 
UDP latency, UDP latency un- der load, and UDP packet loss. The tests connect 
to the closest measurement servers (based on round-trip time); measurement 
servers are hosted both off-net (outside of ISP boundary) and on-net (within 
ISP boundary). The off-net measurement points were hosted by Measurement Lab 
(M-Lab) [23] and changed to Level 3 Communications (CenturyLink) across ten 
cities in the US, while the on-net measurement targets are hosted by the ISPs 
themselves. The FCC publishes the raw data for each month [24], along with 
annual reports on major findings [25]. For controllability reasons, the annual 
MBA reports only cover measurements to the off-net locations, i.e., latency 
results might be inflated due to geographical distance. Thus, we also consider 
the on-net measurements in our analysis."

reference 22 points to 
https://www.fcc.gov/general/measuring-broadband-america-open-methodology
"Latency under load     Average round trip time for a series of regularly 
spaced UDP packets sent during downstream/upstream sustained tests"

this seems to imply that it would be mixed upload/download saturation?


But I agree that this is unclear... maybe Sam (Crawford) knows (pun intended), 
I do not have his email, but maybe he is on-list or someone else can relay that 
question?

Regards
        Sebastian


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