> On Mar 21, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Frantisek Borsik via Rpm 
> <r...@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Now, I hope to really piss You off with the following statement  :-P but:
> 
> even sub 5/1 Mbps “broadband” in Africa with bufferbloat fixed on as many 
> hops along the internet journey from a data center to the customers mobile 
> device (or with just LibreQoS middle box in the ISP’s network) is feeling way 
> better than 25Gbps XG-PON. The only time the XG-PON guy could really feel 
> like a king of the world would be during his speedtest.

Nope. Sorry - this doesn't piss me off :-) It's just true. 

- 7mbps/768kbps DSL with an IQrouter works fine for two simultaneous Zoom 
conferences. (Even though no one would think that it's fast.)
- I recommend people on a budget drop their ISP speed so they can afford a 
router that does SQM 
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/so-you-have-500mbps-1gbps-fiber-and-need-a-router-read-this-first/90305/40
 
<https://forum.openwrt.org/t/so-you-have-500mbps-1gbps-fiber-and-need-a-router-read-this-first/90305/40>

The people that get annoyed are those who just upgraded to 1Gbps service and 
still are getting fragged in their games.

Rich
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