Thanks for this. Yeah, I can understand MDUs are complex and present
unique issues for both their Boards and companies to service them.
Condo trusts, LLC non profits, co-ops, etc. Too many attorneys to boot.
My attorney fees cost more than my training youth to install FiWi infra.
The expensive, existing cos are asking $80K per building. The fire alarm
installer is asking $100K per building. I figure we can get both for
less than $180K but it's going to take some figuring out. And once we
sink the money, it needs to be world-class with swappable parts. Others
may then notice and follow suit.
Then for dark fiber to a private colo about 1.5 miles away the ask is
$5K per month. Buy my own switch and SFPs. Peering and ISP services are
not included.
So I do see the value Comcast brings. I think a challenge is that
different options are needed for different customers. That's why I think
pluggable optics, serdes and cmos radios are critical to the design for
when we eventually go full fiber & wireless for the last meters.
Bob
Happy to help (you can ping me off-list). The main products are DOCSIS
and PON these days and it kind of depends where you are, whether it is
a new build, etc. As others said, it gets super complicated in MDUs
and the infrastructure in place and the building agreements vary quite
a bit.
Jason
From: Bloat <[email protected]> on behalf of Nathan
Owens via Bloat <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Nathan Owens <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 09:07
To: Robert McMahon <[email protected]>
Cc: Rpm <[email protected]>, dan <[email protected]>,
Frantisek Borsik <[email protected]>, Bruce Perens
<[email protected]>, libreqos <[email protected]>, Dave
Taht via Starlink <[email protected]>, bloat
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure
w/Comcast chat
Comcast's 6Gbps service is a niche product with probably <1000
customers. It requires knowledge and persistence from the customer to
actually get it installed, a process that can take many months (It's
basically MetroE). It requires you to be within 1760ft of available
fiber, with some limit on install cost if trenching is required. In
some cases, you may be able to trench yourself, or cover some of the
costs (usually thousands to tens of thousands).
On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 5:04 PM Robert McMahon via Bloat
<[email protected]> wrote:
The primary cost is the optics. That's why they're p in sfp and pay
go
Bob
On Mar 25, 2023, at 4:35 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon via Bloat wrote:
The fiber has basically infinite capacity.
in theory, but once you start aggregating it and having to pay for
equipment
that can handle the rates, your 'infinite capaicty' starts to run
out really
fast.
David Lang
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