Hi Gert,
> On Sep 29, 2023, at 08:31, Gert Doering <g...@space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 08:24:13AM +0200, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink
> wrote:
>> [SM] In the EU we have this as a continuous lobbying effort by big
>> incumbent ISPs (a move to have the large content providers (CAPs) shoulder
>> their "fair" share of the cost of modernizing the networks*), why this flys
>> with at least some EU politicians is that the intended payees of this scheme
>> are all located outside the EU and hence will have little support by the EU
>> citizenry... (The latter is IMHO not fully undeserved either, the days of
>> "do no evil" are long behind us and big tech often forgets that we are all
>> in this together, but I digress). In the EU one of these days such an effort
>> might actually succeed, as much as I dislike this.
>
> And then the local incumbent uses that line of argument to arm-twist
> all the smaller ISPs to pay them for traffic into their network...
> (and calling up fees well above normal market rates for "transit").
Indeed, but that only flies because the regulators so far only feel
responsible for the end-customer to internet access provider links, and
explicitly exempt AS interconnect from their regulatory efforts. Given how
complicated this can become I have some sympathy for their position, the
national incumbent however plays a somewhat dangerous game, if he makes things
too obvious it will likely result in regulatory interventions. This is also why
the product sold is not "access to our eye-balls" but access "to the whole
internet, including our eye-balls" yet at a cost that nobody is likely to use
to access anything but that ISPs eye-balls. As much as it pains me that is
behavior not untypical for large corporations these days...
Regards
Sebastian
>
> Gert Doering
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