All,

During the recent ACS DivCHED 21st BCCE at the University of Northern Texas 
(UNT) Tony Williams, Harry Pence and I ran a couple of workshops on Social 
Networking and Online Public Compound Databases. We were required to charge 
participants even though none of us did this for the money, and although I have 
seen no money I believe we raised $360.  After reading some of the threads on 
this list concerning the costs of BO dinners I had suggested to Tony and Harry 
that we consider using this money to support the BO dinner (I believe someone 
on the list had suggested finding a sponsor, although we are not "sponsors").  
Both Tony and Harry were in support of this.  So we would be willing to use the 
proceeds from our workshop to support the BO, and something like what this 
thread suggests seems even better than defraying some of the costs of the 
dinner (although we could potentially do both).  So for what it is worth, if 
there is an interest I will contact UNT and find the exact amount of money we 
made and make that available however seems best.

Also, on a different level.  I am in Chemical Education not Cheminformatics and 
am currently the chair of ACS DivCHED CCCE (Committee on Computers in Chemical 
Education). One of the things we are "supposed to do" is organize On-Line 
Chemistry Courses (OLCCs) http://www.ched-ccce.org/olcc/index.html and the last 
OLCC was run in 2004 with ACS CHAS (Division of Chemical Health and Safety) 
http://science.widener.edu/svb/olcc_safety/ . That course was taught in 8 
different schools (where students registered and got credit for the class in 
their home institution)  
http://science.widener.edu/svb/olcc_safety/schools.html . Something I would 
like to suggest is a potential OLCC with CINF on open science and 
cheminformatics.  Although I would hope we would move beyond the 1990's 
technology of the last OLCC the basic course structure is solid. If you go to 
http://science.widener.edu/svb/olcc_safety/lecture.html you will see that each 
week a "guest speaker" would present their "paper" and interact with the 
students, each participating school had a faculty member who functioned as the 
facilitator (the person who actually gave graded assignments and awarded the 
grades and this counted towards their teaching load).  This allowed for 
"experts" to present material in schools which did not have resident "experts". 
 At UALR this was actually both a graduate and undergraduate level course.  My 
point is we could do this through the CCCE if there is an interest, and it 
would be an effective way to actually put stuff into the curriculum in schools 
that did not have the resources/expertise and capabilities. If there was an 
interest I would be willing to work on such a course.


Sincerely,

Bob Belford

Dr. Robert E. Belford
Department of Chemistry
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
www.ualr.edu/rebelford
(501)569-8824
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Murray-Rust 
  To: Geoffrey Hutchison 
  Cc: BlueObelisk-Discuss 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlueObelisk-discuss] Distributing Blue Obelisk Propaganda atACS


  It's a good idea - like Geoff I shan't be there.


  On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi guys,

    Unfortunately, I won't be at the Boston ACS meeting -- too many conferences 
this year. However, I have a suggestion which was prompted by Silicos -- 
they're the company which just donated their Spectrophore descriptor code to 
Open Babel.

    Let's distribute propaganda on the tables near the CINF sessions! Or, to be 
more accurate, would anyone be willing to print and deposit some propaganda on 
those tables?



    Silicos created this nice "quick reference" for the Open Babel API. Maybe 
we can come up with something for CDK, and maybe an overview sheet with a list 
of open source chemistry packages (courtesy of the Blue Obelisk)? Then we'd 
have three little piles of sheets to compete with the propaganda from everyone 
else.


  I like the idea of a 1 page (double sided) reference - I would see it as a 
list of all BO resources - data, specs, code with a 1-2 line description of 
each and  appropriate pointers. 

  It may take a little while to collate our material and it's important to get 
it reasonably comprehensive and accurate. We, for example, could - and should - 
contribute several of our programs (especially OSCAR and OPSIN) besides the 
original JUMBO.

  I imagine the print costs could be absorbed somewhere - but we would have to 
get started fairly soon. When you talk about "card" is this a real card or  a 
PDF that can be printed on A4? Real card will cost more
    

    What do you think?

    -Geoff

    
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